Friday, October 31, 2008

RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES OF INDIA - JAINISM, THE MASK OF THE PERSONALITY.

RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHIES OF INDIA - JAINISM, THE MASK OF THE PERSONALITY.

SOME RANDOM READINGS: For the western mind, the personality is eternal. It is indestructible, not to be dissolved. This is the basic idea in the Christian doctrine of the resurrection of the body, the resurrection being our regaining of our cherished personality in a purified form, worth to fare before the majesty of the Almighty. That personality is thought to go on forever -- even though, by a curious inconsistency, it is not believed to have existed anywhere, in any state or form, previous to the carnal birth of the mortal individual. The personality did not exist in extra-human spheres, from all eternity, before its temporal earthly manifestation. It is declared to have come into being with the mortal act of procreation, and yet is supposed to go on after the demise of the procreated mortal frame: temporal in its beginning, immortal in its end.

The term "personality" is derived from the Latin PERSONA. PERSONA, literally, means the mask that is worn over the face by the actor on the Greek or Roman stage; the mask "through" (per) which he "sounds" (sonat) his part. The mask is what bears the features or make-up of the role, the traits of hero or heroine, servant or messenger, while the actor himself behind it remains anonymous, an unkown being intrinsically aloof from the play, constitutionally unconcerned with the enacted sufferings and passions. Originally, the term PERSONA in the sense of "personality" must have implied that people are only impersonating what they seem to be. The word connotes that the personality is but the mask of one's part in the comedy or tragedy of life and not to be idenfied with the actor. It is not a manifestation of his true nature, but a veil. And yet the western outlook -- whioch originated with the Greeks themselves and was then developed in Christian philosophy--has annulled the distinction, implied in the term, between the mask and the actor whose face it hides. The two have become, as it were, identical. When the play is over the PERSONA cannot be taken off; it clings through death and into the life beyond. The Occidental actor, having wholly identified himself with the enacted personality during his moment on the stage of the world, is unable to take it off when the time comes for departure, snf do krrpd it on infrginitrly, got millrnniumd-- even eternities--after the play is over. To lose his PERSONAL would mean for him to lose every hope for a future beyond death. The MASK HAS BECOME FOR HIM FUSED, AND CONFUSED, WITH HIS ESSENCE.

Indian philosophy, on the other hand, insists upon the difference, stressung the distinction between the actor and role. It continually emphasizes the contrast between the displayed existence of the individual and the real being of the annonymous actor, concealed, shrouded, and veiled in the costumes of the play. Indeed, one of the dominant endeavours of India thought throughout the ages has been to develop a dependable technique for keeping the line clear between the two. A meticulous defining of their interrelationships and their modes of collaboration, as well as a practical, systematic, and courageously enforced effort to brfeak from the confines of the one into the unfathomed reaches of the other, has been carried on for ages -- primarily through numerous introspective processes of yoga. Piercing and dissolving all the layers of the manifest personality, the relentlessly introducing it in all of its stratifications, arrives at the ANNONYMOUS AND STRANGELY UNCONCERNED ACTOR OF OUR LIFE.

PART II

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PART II
Although in the Hindu and Buddhist texts vivid descriptions of the traditional hells or purgatories are to be found, where appalling details are dwelt upon minutely, never is the situation quite the same as that of the afterworlds of Dante and Ulysses, filled with celebrities long dead who still retain all of the characteristics of their personal masks. For in the Oriental hells, though multitudes of suffering beings are depicted in their agonies, none retain the traits of their earthly individualities. Some can remember having once been elsewhere AND KNOW WHAT THE DEED WAS THROUGH WHICH THE PRESENT PUNISHMENT WAS INCURRED, nevertheless, in general, all are steeped and lost in their present misery.
Just as any dog is absorbed in the state of being precisely whatever dog it happens to be, fascinated by the details of its present life – and as we ourselves are in general spellbound by our present personal existences—so are the beings in the Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist hells. They are unable to remember any former state, any costume worn in a previous existence, but identify themselves exclusively with that which they now are. And this, of course, is why they are in hell.
Once this Indian idea has struck the mind, then the question immediately presents itself: WHY AM I BOUND TO BE WHAT I AM? Why have I to wear the mask of this personality, which I think and feel myself to be? WHY MUST I ENDURE ITS DESTINY, THE LIMITATIONS, DELUSIONS, AND AMBITIONS OF THIS PECULIAR PART THAT I AM BEING DRIVEN TO ENACT? Or why, if I have left one mask behind me, am I now back again in the limelight in another, enacting another role and in a different setting? WHAT IS COMPELLING ME TO GO ON THIS WAY, BEING ALWAYS SOMETHING PARTICULAR—AN INDIVIDUAL, WITH ALL OF THESE PARTICULAR SHORTCOMINGS AND EXPERIENCES? Where and how am I ever to attain to another state—that of not being something particular, beset by limitations and qualities that obstruct my pure, unbounded being?

Can one grow into something devoid of any specificity of shade and colour, undefined by shape, unlimited by qualities: something unspecific and therefore not liable to any specific life?
Thes are the questions that lead to the experiment of asceticism and yoga practice. They arise out of a melancholy weariness of the will to live – THE WILL GROWN TIRED, AS IT WERE, OF THE PROPSPECTS OF THIS ENDLESS BEFORE AND AFTER, AS THOUGH AN ACTOR SHOULD BECOME SUDDENLY BORED WITH HIS CAREER., The doom of this timeless course of transmigration: FORGOTTEN PAST AND AIMLESS FUTURE!
WHY DO I bother being what I am: man, woman, peasant, artist rich or poor? Since I have impersonated, without remembering, all olf the possible attitudes and roles—time and time again, the lost past, in the worlds that have dissolved—why do I keep going on?
One might very well come to loathe the hackneyed comedy of life if one were no longer blinded, fascinated, and deluded by the details of one’s own specific part. If one were no longer spellbound by the plot of the play in which one happened to be caught for the present, one might lvery well decide to resign—give up the mask, the costume, the lines, and the whole affair. It is not difficult to imagine why, for some, IT MIGHT BECOME SIMPLY A BORE TO GO ON WHICH THIS PERMANENT ENGAGEMENT, ENACTING CHARACTER AFTER CHARACTER IN THIS INTERMINABLE STOCK COMPANY OF LIFE.
When the feeling comes of being bored with it or nauseated (as it has come, time and time again, in the long history of India) then life revolts, rebels against its own most elementary task or duty of automatically carrying on. Growing from an individual to a collective urge, this leads to the founding of ascetic orders, such as those of the Jaina and the Buddhist communities of homeless monks: troops of renegade actors, heroic deserters, footloose and self-0exiled from the universal farce of the force of life.
The argument—if the renegades would bother to justify themselves—would run like this:
“Why should we care what we are? What real concern have we with all those parts that people are continually forced to play? Not to know that one has already enacted every sort of role, time and time again—beggar, king, lanimal, god—and that the actor’s career is no better in one than in another, is truly a pitiable state of mind; for the most obvious fact about the timeless engagement is that all the objects are situations of the plot have been offered and endured in endless repletion through the millenniums. People must be completely blind to go on submitting to the spell of the same old allurements; enthralled by the deluding enticements that have seduced every being that ever lived; hailing with expectation, as a new and thrilling adventure, the same trite deceotuins if desure as have been experienced endlessly; CLINGING NOW TO THIS, NOW TO THAT ILLUSION—ALL RESULTING ONLY IN THE FACT THAT THE ACTOR GOES ON ACTING ROLES, EACH SEEMINGLY NEW YET ALREADY RENDERED MANY TIMES, THOUGH IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERING CONSTUMES AND WITH OTHER CASTS. Obviously, this is a ridiculous impasse. The mind has been bewitched, trapped by the pressures of a blind life-force that whirls creatures along in a cycling, never-ending stream. AND WHY? Who or what is doing this? WHO IS THE FOOL THAT KEEPS THIS DIM-WITTED ENTERTAINMENT ON THE BOARDS?”

TO CONTINUE…… IN part iii

DEPRESSION PART II

Sher Agrawal

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Depression Part-2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji

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Ravishankar Gopal Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:49 AM
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Radhe Krishna To all,

A man is disease prone when he is immuno deficient. Nobody's life is exempt from success, failure, joy, sorrow, expectations and disappointments. Just as a man with a weak immune system suffers frequently from diseases, so, too, does a man with a weak mind suffer from depression? The only medication for the weak minded is proper spiritual practice.

Those who are weak of mind can easily be mesmerized or hypnotized. But those who are strong minded cannot be mesmerized or hypnotized as easily. A lot of people are moved to tears while listening to the so-called Nama Sankeerthanam, set to modern music. This is not due to devotion. This is also a kind of hypnotism. This is similar to people getting ecstatic while listening to pop or rock music. There is absolutely no semblance of devotion in these. Nama Sankeerthanam should conform to the norms set by Saints. Just as a physically powerful man enslaves the weak man so does the strong minded enslave the weak minded.

In the name of meditation if one just stares vacantly into space, fixes the vision on a mirror or concentrates on a black dot/electric lamp the mind gets self-hypnotised. One should learn meditation directly from the Guru and adhere to His instructions strictly without any compromise. Until such time one finds a suitable Guru the safest way is to chant Hari Naama ceaselessly.

Psychologically, women are more vulnerable to mesmerism/hypnotism. This is the reason that it was not in our tradition for the women to mix freely in the society. The kumkum applied between the two eyebrows and the 'kaajal' applied to the eyes protect them from mesmerisers and hypnotizers. (Provided the kumkum and kaajal are prepared in the traditional way).

A person can be in two different states at a time. For eg. A man may appear to be asleep. But he may be dreaming. Somnambulism (sleep walking) is a condition wherein the person is simultaneously in a wakeful and sleeping state. Similarly, those in depression are at the same time in wakeful and dream state. Just as we see totally see unconnected scenes in our dreams these people see unconnected scenes in their meditative state. Just as a few of our dreams turn out to be true, so too, do some of their 'visions'. Hence, this leads to confusion. The fine line of demarcation between reality and dream state is lost and they are pushed into emotional imbalance. Let's say we have had a divine vision. Standing in front of a picture of God we think that if a flower placed on the picture were to fall then it would confirm the authenticity of the vision seen. Now there is nothing surprising even if the flower were to fall down, for, it is but a natural occurrence
for a thing to fall down. If the vision were authentic the flower should move up! This is not an exaggerated statement. When Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa had had his first darshan of Devi he prayed that if what he had seen were true the sword placed beside the deity should jump thrice. And it did! Our divine visions should be confirmed in this manner without place for any doubt.

!!! Will Continue !!!

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
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DEPRESSION PART I

Sher Agrawal

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Depression Part-1 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji

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Ravishankar Gopal Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:26 AM
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Radhe Krishna To all,

Mind is inert. As per the advaita philosophy there is in fact no such thing as mind. I do accept this. However, in day-to-day life one has to accept the existence of mind. The mind is something wonderful and strange. One who is able to control the mind gains mental strength and succeeds in doing rare and great feats. One who is able to destroy the mind becomes a Gnani (man of wisdom). And the one who is unable to control the mind gets confused and becomes sick both physically and mentally.

A man's face reflects his happiness and sorrow vividly. In happiness his physical health improves and in sorrow it is adversely affected. So there is a connection between the mind and the body. A man with a disturbed mind cannot sit quiet even for a while. And he is always found to be fidgeting with something or moving about restlessly. A man who has control over his mind is able to sit quietly for a long period. Therefore, those who are unable to control their minds directly, practice aasanas (postures as shown in the Yoga) for long hours and thus control their minds through body control. Raja Yoga aasanas help in spiritual progress. Hatha Yoga aasanas help strengthens both mind and body.

One-pointedness of the mind is totally different from the state of mind gained (strengthened) through Hatha Yoga. One who has strengthened his mind carries out feats which create awe and wonder. For example, he is found to possess the power of an elephant in him. He will be able to break a big rock with his bare hands. But his mind will be bereft of feelings such as joy, sorrow, devotion and knowledge.

Likewise, a tender heart (mind) is different from a weak mind. Sattvic feelings like devotion, knowledge are reflected only in the former while the latter (weak mind) lacks steadfastness. If someone advises him that 'Ganesh pooja' is good then he would at once conduct this pooja. If on the other hand he happens to read that pranayama (control of breath) is the only way he would at once start this practice. He would try all ways and means that he sees, hears or reads but would drop it all as soon as begun. It is not so in spiritual matters alone. He behaves likewise in worldly matters, too. Cinema, music or any other subject for that matter attracts him very easily. Such a person would take to self-pity quite suddenly. His inability manifests itself as anger, hatred and tears. His mind then is like a cauldron. He then uses abusive and authoritative words in self-defence.

There is a connection between mind and food. It is seen that some kind of food make the mind sattvic (calm) some make it rajasic (active) and yet others make it tamasic (dull). For example, foods which are not fresh when taken make the mind dull. Liquor makes one loose control of his senses and even makes him unconscious. From this it is evident that there is connection between food and mind.

In most cases of mental sickness there is no definitive treatment in allopathy (English medicine). Our scriptures categorize the diseases as those afflicting the body as vyadhi and those afflicting the mind as aadhi. Ayurvedha (ancient Indian medicine) prescribes medication even for mental illnesses. The ayurvedic practitioners opine that these illnesses are the outcome of heated up brain. Whereas, the allopathic doctors hold the opinion that they are due to nervous breakdown. So, they try to calm down the mentally ill patients through sedatives, electro-convulsive therapy (shock treatment). However, even these doctors agree that their system of medicine only pacifies the patient but does not cure them.
My opinion in this matter is totally different. Epilepsy, nervous breakdown, mental disorder, mental depressions are the result of the trouble caused by spirits. The chances of such mental afflictions are more in families where there have been unnatural deaths (suicide, murder, accident, etc.). Also, such afflictions prevail in families where pithru karmas (religious rites to be done for one's dead parents) have not been adhered to. Also, one who accepts gifts offered during pithru karmas becomes vulnerable to such mental diseases. Use of black magic also affects mental stability. Such diseases can be cured only by counter mantras, the power of upasana (worship) doing angapradakshina (circumambulation not by foot but by lying down and rolling on the ground) to Tirupathi Srinivasa Perumal and never by medicines.

Philosophers say that when one desires to achieve something in life one should imagine/dream of having achieved that status. Only those who have such dreams succeed in life. I neither accept this view totally nor reject it. One should have dreams but dream itself should not become one's life. A man toils in the scorching sun. Even as he works he imagines, "I would be paid my wage on completion of this work. I shall buy good food for my wife and children and make them happy". This sweet imagination lessens the burden of his work. Arduous labour without such sweet imagination would have only weighed him down. But only imagination without work would make him lazy with no end purpose in life. That is why I say that our dreams and imaginations should be combined with effort (work) and be within reasonable limits.

Imagination and superstition take hold of some to the extent that it chains them down with no way of escape. Yet there are those who are bogged down by other notions. For example, a man might have received good news on a Monday and a bad one on the following day, i.e. Tuesday. At once his mind imagines that a good and a bad news would alternate. And if this man awaits some news on the following Friday he would imagine that it would be a favorable one and that which would be received on the next day, Saturday, would be otherwise.

Likewise, a man might have got into the routine of visiting the Ganesh temple every day enroute to his office. If on any day he is unable to make it and happens to face some problem on that very day in his office he would blame it all up on his missed visit to the temple. If by any chance he happens to see a picture of Ganesh in any of his office files or pads he would imagine that Ganesh is reminding him of his missed visit. Likewise, when he misses the visit yet on another day he would anticipate some trouble in his office. The mind of such a man gradually looses its strength. This becomes quite obvious as he starts suspecting everything (PARANOID). For example, when he finds two people conversing he thinks that he is being talked about (IDEAS OF REFERENCE). He becomes careless in his dress, wearing dirty and torn clothes. He then imagines afflictions of various diseases (HYPOCHONDRIAC). He starts speaking incessantly. All these are sure signs of
self-pity.

There are always two sides to a coin. For a depressed man everything will appear contradictory. He starts feeling neglected - that none understands him, none praises him, none respects him and none has any affection for him.

When he learns of the symptoms of various diseases through books, radio, like if one feels frequently thirsty it is a sure sign of diabetes, he would feel that he has such symptoms and so is afflicted with that particular disease. Similarly, in devotional matters, if he happens to read the life history of a saint he would imagine that he, too, undergoes similar experiences.

!!! Will Continue !!!

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
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Wednesday, October 29, 2008

HOW ISLAM OPERATES:

Sher Agrawal

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[prohindu] What Islam Isn't

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mrapsc Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:20 PM
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What Islam Isn't
By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, April 21, 2008


The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris --car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008

A message worth reading

Sher Agrawal

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Mind Control By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji

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Ravishankar Gopal Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:56 AM
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Radhe Krishna To all,

Human mind is never still. Like the flowing water it moves steadily and endlessly from one thought to another.

The mouth likes to talk, the tongue craves to taste, the eyes long to see, the legs desire to move. Every sense organ looks outward to seek pleasure.

How is mind control achieved? The water can be controlled by arresting its flow.

But this lasts only until the water is forceful enough to gush out.
The mind flows through the sense organs. By shutting the doors of these sense organs, the mind can be brought under control, but only momentarily.

Is there an easier way?

Let the powerful rays of the sun shine on the water. Drench your senses in the enchanting form of Krishna, His stories, His glory and His Divine Name.

The mind is effortlessly controlled!

Regards

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare

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Monday, October 27, 2008

MASTER/S GRACE

Sher Agrawal

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[OurExtendedUNFamily] *EmpoweringYourSoulThroughMeditation* Flowering of Grace - 23: Tom Andryuk

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*Flowering of Grace*


Tom Andryuk



Some years ago, my wife and I learned that Sant Rajinder Singh Ji was going to establish a center for Science of Spirituality in Chicago. We were working and living in Los Angeles and had always dreamed of being part of a spiritual community. Though relocating didn't seem practical, I wrote to Maharaj Ji and asked if it might be possible to move there.

Meanwhile, I received a call from an associate and learned he was recommending me for a new position in his department. I immediately thought of Master Darshan's advice to me years before, when my employment had been erratic. He instructed me to accept any work that came my way unasked for, as therein lay my spiritual benefit. For this reason only, I agreed to an interview. Yet when offered the job, I accepted it, based on Master's advice.

A few weeks later Maharaj Ji's reply to my letter arrived.He stated that if I wished to come to Chicago, I should "make all sincere efforts," and the Master Power overhead would do the rest. About a week later I was summoned to San Francisco for training for my new job. While there someone mentioned a position in the Chicago area they needed to fill.

When I returned home, I told my wife, whose enthusiasm and joy percolated throughout the weekend. The next day I made a phone call from work to express interest in the job. Two hours later the plant manager came to my office and asked me what I was doing. "What do you mean?" I asked. He said, "How can you take a job in this location when you're going to Chicago?" It's probably a good thing I was sitting down, as I got weak in the knees. Later, when I inquired as to where in Chicago the offices were located, I was told they were in the town of Lisle. I took out a map and found that we would be three miles from Science of Spirituality Center.

My job there lasted one and a half years. There is no way to describe the time spent with Maharaj Ji. To say it was one of the greatest experiences of our lives would be a gross understatement. If I could offer one message from this situation, it is this, in Master's own words: If you but take one step toward the Master, he will take a million steps toward you.


Flowering of Grace, SK Publications, ISBN 0-918224-41-1

GITA TEACHINGS IN ESSENSE

Sher Agrawal

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[gita-talk] Re: Simplest Explanation of Gita

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sadhak_insight Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:58 AM
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dear group members,
there are lot of commentaries and explanations of gita. but i like
to know what are the basics of gita? how a layman can understand the
ideas of gita? and how one can use them for the betterment of ones
life? the commentaries and explanations some time make the gita
difficult to understand.

bob
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NEW POSTING

Very simple … It is a sceince of being happy (NOT acquiring
happiness) …

If you experience unhappiness, …

… acknowledge it transparently
… observe it objectively
… locate its root causes
… (if possible, locate the single root cause for all your miseries)
… understand the strength and skills required to remove the root
cause(s)
… acquire the strength and skills
… apply the strength and skills with resolve to remove the root cause
(s) for (all) your miseries

… AND … BE HAPPY.

That is it!

Respects.
Naga Narayana.
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-Shree Hari-

OK Bob, as a Bhagavad Gita novice let me give you a few pointers:

1)Ask questions at this site, most of the Sadhaks will tune into
where
you are at, with compassion and tolerance.

2)I agree, much of the online commentaries of Gitaji can be somewhat
overpowering, so don't try and dig too deep, look at the heading of
the chapter read with concentration right through, don't grind to a
halt if one verse confuses, you can easily ask the Sadhaks.

3)A thing I found useful is to have three translations 'bookmarked',
I
have a light translation, I use this the most, an alternative, and a
beautiful interlinear translation.

4)Remember even though the source of Gitaji comes from Ancient
India,
its messages are timeless, and universal.(Look at it in that manner.)

5)Ask yourself this question, "By what grace am I here?".

B.G. Chapter 6:
Yoga is not eating too much,
Nor is it not eating at all.
Not the habit of too much sleep,
Nor keeping awake, Arjuna. (16)

For the moderate in eating
And in diversion, disciplined,
Moderate in sleep and waking,
Yoga destroys all his sorrow.1 (17)

I ask you Bob, how up to date is that advice of Sri Krishna?

With Respect and Divine Love,

Mike Keenor
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Shree Hari

Ram Ram!

Dear Bob, Thanks for the question!

Based on Swamiji Maharaj's book -
"Sar-Sangrah" (summary of gist of Scriptures in Hindi), "Simple
Explanation of Gita" follow (References to relevant verses from
Gitaji have been added), this
is mdified from what was posted about June 4, 08 under " Basic
Principles of Bhagavad Gita"

1. Due to the delusion (Samsaric Moha), man considers the constantly
changing world to be real and permanent and he expects continuous
pleasure from it, which the world cannot provide. With this lack of
understanding, man is thus puzzled, he does not know what to do and
what not to do with the result that he is not able to do his
rightful duty (Swadharma). Therefore one should not be under the
spell of worldly attachment (moha).
(Gitaji: 1- 27, 2- 7, 18-73).

2. The body (Sharira) is perishable and the knower of this fact is
Soul (Atma or Sharii) which Itself is imperishable. By giving due
importance to this wisdom (Viveka), one performs his rightful duty,
one can get rid of worry and sorrow.
(Gitaji 2/ 11-30).

3. When one does his duty (Swadharma) which may vary due to
situations or circumstances unselfishly and for the benefit of
others, he progresses spiritually very fast. (Gitaji: 2/31-38, 3-35
and 18-47)

4. There are two ways to break the bondage of Karma:
- Knowing the secret of work (Karma Yoga) and doing your duty
unselfishly without the desire for the fruit of action. (Gitaji: 2-
47 and 4-18)
- Realizing the true nature of Self (Jnana Yoga)... (Gitaji: 4-34/35)

5. One should neither rejoice nor feel sorry or hate when favorable
or unfavorable situations come his way, because those inflicted with
joy and sorrow cannot rise above the dualities of the world to
experience the supreme bliss (Parama-ananda)...(Gita: 5/ 20-22)

6. With whatever method one should attain equanimity (Samta) in the
Antahkaran (Mind, Intellect, Ego and Chita ). Without attaining
equanimity one cannot totally get rid of modification of nature
(Vikaras).
(Gitaji:2-48, 2/ 55-72).

7. Everything is only God and God is the essence in everything, He
is the "Is-ness" in objects, people and actions. To accept this
truth whole heartedly, it is the best method (Sadhan).
(Gitaji: 7/ 7-12, 9/ 4-5, 10-8, 16-19).

8. Whatever a man thinks of at the last moment when he leaves the
body, that alone does he attain. Therefore at all times one should
think of God only when performing one's duty. This is the only way
to assure that at the last minute he will remember God since it is
not certain when the last moment may come (Gitaji: 8/ 5-7).

9. Everyone is entitled to reach God regardless of which Varna ,
Ashrama, Sampradaya, (various tradions) etc. he belongs to. (Gitaji:
9/ 30-33).

10. Whatever being is endowed with glory, brilliance, beauty,
prosperity or power, know that to be the manifestation of a spark of
God's splendor and therefore think of God only (Gitaji: 10-41).

11. Think of this world as a projection of God only, each human
being can experience the vision of the cosmic form (Visvarupa
darsan) of God.
(Gitaji:6/ 29-30, 11- 7,13).

12. The devotee who submits his body, senses, mind, intellect and
ego whole-heartedly he is dear to God (Gitaji: 9-34, 12-8 and 18-65).

13. In this world there is only thing worth knowing which is to
know God, only then one attains to immortality (8-16, 21).

14. In order to obtain freedom from the bonds of Samsara, one must
become guna-atita (rising above the three modes of nature), going
beyond the three gunas, Sattvic, Rajasic and Tamasic. This can be
achieved through constant and consistent exclusive (thinking of no
other) devotion (Gita: 14-20).

15. The basis or the reason for existance of this world is only God,
believing this, the devotee should worship God with exclusive
devotion (Gita 14-26. 15-19).

16. With the bad conduct and bad behavior, man whirls in 84 lacs
(84, 000) of species and goes to hell and experiences pain and
suffering. To liberate oneself from the cycle of birth and death, it
is a must to get rid of bad conduct and bad behavior (Gita 16-19,
20).

17. Whatever noble action man undertakes, he should first remember
God, recite His name and then begin the action (Gitaji 17/24).

18. Gist of all scriptures are the Vedas, gist of Vedas is contained
in Upnishads, the gist of Upnishads is Gitaji and gist of Gitaji is
Sharnagatih (surrender) at the feet of God. Who with exclusive
devotion takes Sharnagatih of God, God frees him from all sins
(Gita: 18/66).

For further study pls. read Sadhaka Sanjivanee for the verses
referenced above

Madan kaura
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If the message of gita were to be described in 3 words, it would
be "don't be afraid." The gita was a sermon from Krishna to Arjun to
give up his negative attitude and fight the forces of evil,
represented by the Kauravs. But besides it gives us the answers to
almost everything we want to know about spirituality which applies
to everybody in this world, regardless of religion.

Hari Shanker Deo
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Sunday, October 26, 2008

GO WITH THE LIGHT, LEAVE THE DARK

Sher Agrawal

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I Turn Off The Corrupted Hierarchy's Media "Fear" Programming -



Use your energies to continue manifesting the Light, and leave the dark to play out their roles in their own way. Their influence and power is on the wane, and they can only affect you if you allow it to be so. Do not allow fear to pull you down or cast doubts where you instead need to be strong and resolute. (Agâ€"agria through Mike Quinsey) - www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/new_subscribe.html



I Tune In To Me ~ I "Be Here Now" -



When we discover the still, quiet place that lies within each of us, we can see it as a base to untangle ourselves from the doubt, indecision, ill health, guilt and other forms of old programming that result in confused and diffused actions. (Hallie Iglehart, from the book, Woman Spirit)



I Tune In Within, I Turn On My Soul -



Dear ones, we beg you to incorporate some form of clearing, of meditation, of daily practice, into your lives - it will become truly essential in order to ground the energies and rise with them! (The Brotherhood of Light through Edna G. Frankel) - www.beyondreiki.com



The Nature of Fear Is Living Less Of Life ~ The More I Live My Fears; The Less I Live My Life



Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt. (William Shakespeare)



I Face My Fear And Grow



Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality which guarantees all the others. (Winston Churchill)



I Believe In Myself ~ I Embrace My Power, Being "All" Of Who I Am



Fashion is more powerful than any tyrant. (Latin Proverb)



I Embrace My Mirrors



When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. (Dr. Wayne Dyer) - www.drwaynedyer.com



I Unify My "I" ~ I Integrate My Polarities ~ I Embrace My Shadow Side



The first step toward change is acceptance. Once you accept yourself, you open the door to change. That's all you have to do. Change is not something you do, it's something you allow. (Will Garcia)



I Refuse To Blame And "Fear The Past" ~ I Choose Autonomy And Believe In My Strengths



The good or ill of a man lies within his own will. (Epictetus)



I Refuse To Judge And "Fear The Present" ~ I Choose To Respect Free Will And Honor Individuality



Acknowledge, honor and respect the Spark of Divinity within others, no matter how different their beliefs are or how unloving their actions. (Archangel Michael through Ronna Herman) - www.RonnaStar.com



I Refuse To Worry And "Fear The Future" ~ I Choose To Believe In My Abilities



Drag your thoughts away from your troubles - by the ear, by the heels, or any other way you can manage it. It's the healthiest thing a body can do. (Mark Twain)



I Pursue My Passions



Strength is a matter of the made-up mind. (John Beecher)



I Embrace My Mistakes As Opportunities To Learn



I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward. (Thomas Edison)



I Cherish Change As Chances To Learn ~ I Go With The Flow And Grow



You must act in favor of your own well-being by claiming your power and saying yes to new ways of experiencing your life. Otherwise, when you do not respond to the messages that signal you to change your life, the lessons can land in your body and create difficulties. You may feel shut down and in pain, and out of necessity, forced to take time to deal with a situation you have been dreading and avoiding. (The Pleiadians through Barbara Marciniak, from the book, Path of Empowerment) - www.pleiadians.com



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Saturday, October 25, 2008

BHARAT EK VIDAMBNA MAHAN

हुल उपाध्याय

आसमान में यान गाँव से शहर की ओर
सबका रूझान
बिगड़ते हैं घर
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सिकुड़ते हैं उद्यान

और योगी महोदय?
लेकर थोड़ा सा ज्ञान
कहते हैं नाक आपकी
एक जादू की खान

बस हवा निकली
और हुआ दर्द अन्तर्धान
मिनटों में कर लो
हर रोग का निदान

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इस देश का देखो
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नहीं जानते विधान

हर पांच साल
बस एक ही तान
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इसे सूझे समाधान

दिल्ली,
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+91-98682-06383 गाँव से शहर की ओर
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बिगड़ते हैं घर
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बढ़ती है भीड़
खोता है इंसान
फ़ैलते हैं शहर
सिकुड़ते हैं उद्यान

और योगी महोदय?
लेकर थोड़ा सा ज्ञान
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और हुआ दर्द अन्तर्धान
मिनटों में कर लो
हर रोग का निदान

लगाते है शिविर
जहाँ होता है ध्यान
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न देते हैं ध्यान

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60 बरस की है
पर है अब भी वो नादान

कोइ भी समस्या
करनी हो निदान
असहयोग अनशन ही
इसे सूझे समाधान

दिल्ली,
24 अक्टूबर 2008
+91-98682-06383सबका रूझान
बिगड़ते हैं घर
उजड़ते हैं खलिहान

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खोता है इंसान
फ़ैलते हैं शहर
सिकुड़ते हैं उद्यान

और योगी महोदय?
लेकर थोड़ा सा ज्ञान
कहते हैं नाक आपकी
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और हुआ दर्द अन्तर्धान
मिनटों में कर लो
हर रोग का निदान

लगाते है शिविर
जहाँ होता है ध्यान
बढ़ती बेरोज़गारी की ओर
न देते हैं ध्यान

इस देश का देखो
कैसा संविधान
जो देते हैं वोट
नहीं जानते विधान

हर पांच साल
बस एक ही तान
लोकतन्त्र ने थमा दी
लुटेरों को कमान

असहयोग और अनशन से
जो जन्मी थी सन्तान
60 बरस की है
पर है अब भी वो नादान

कोइ भी समस्या
करनी हो निदान
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न खाने को धान
महाशक्ति बनने का
रखता गुमान

अमिताभ हैं प्राण
शाह रुख हैं जान
गली-गली में दुश्मन
हिन्दू-मुसलमान

बिन्द्रा हैं शान
ठाकरे हैवान
दोनों का जनता
करती सम्मान

सीमा पे खेलता
जो जान पे जवान
मरणोपरान्त उसका
गाती गुणगान

और देश जो त्यागे
वो कहलाए महान
सर पे बिठाए
और उसे माने विद्वान

लुटते हैं शिक्षक
लुटते संस्थान
इस देश का कौन
करेगा उत्थान?

मजहब है बिकता
मन्दिर है दुकान
ईश्वर को छोड़
पंडित पूजे जजमान

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सबका रूझान
बिगड़ते हैं घर
उजड़ते हैं खलिहान

बढ़ती है भीड़
खोता है इंसान
फ़ैलते हैं शहर
सिकुड़ते हैं उद्यान

और योगी महोदय?
लेकर थोड़ा सा ज्ञान
कहते हैं नाक आपकी
एक जादू की खान

बस हवा निकली
और हुआ दर्द अन्तर्धान
मिनटों में कर लो
हर रोग का निदान

लगाते है शिविर
जहाँ होता है ध्यान
बढ़ती बेरोज़गारी की ओर
न देते हैं ध्यान

इस देश का देखो
कैसा संविधान
जो देते हैं वोट
नहीं जानते विधान

हर पांच साल
बस एक ही तान
लोकतन्त्र ने थमा दी
लुटेरों को कमान

असहयोग और अनशन से
जो जन्मी थी सन्तान
60 बरस की है
पर है अब भी वो नादान

कोइ भी समस्या
करनी हो निदान
असहयोग अनशन ही
इसे सूझे समाधान

दिल्ली,
24 अक्टूबर 2008
+91-98682-06383

Bharat and Secularism

Bharat Never Worked Successfully As A Secular Nation As It Was Never Secular Functionally. Constitution Fails To Explain Secularism. Politicians Being Lame Duck. Citizens Never Cared. Bharatwasis Enjoyed A Fun Being Secular. Minorities Always Were Protected. Unprotected Now Would Protect Themselves. Whose First Right????

1 Well, in the first place, we do not believe that the Hindus are working on terrorism. There are possibilities that since the terrorism progression has been taken too lightly by the GOI, the Hindus could start this bloody act to give a befitting reply to the bloody terrorists. The steel cuts the steel. It is expected that the upset Hindus probably now onwards start doing counter replies to the terrorists by resorting to such actions. The general public, particularly the Hindus have gotten no faith in the soft policy of the GOI towards the terrorists. The GOI must be taught a lesson or be given a warning. In case, the GOI does not take firm steps to curb the problem of the rapidly growing terrorism in Bharat, the public on its own shall take the protective steps & the Hindu terrorism shall be one of those steps. Hindus have after a long gap of many decades understood that they have to work united to remove the GOI UPA stupid regime to make the nation a strong one. All know that this government t is an exclusively pro Muslims with the support of super pro Muslims communists as well as stupid Amar types politicians.

2 The people of the nation have to analyse to understand whether or not, the secular term applies to the nation. The news has come that sadhvi is the mastermind behind the Malo Gaon blast. The consideration could be right giving the commencement of the Hindus terrorism in the name of saving the community from getting into the Islamic hands. The past history is clear on the issue that these Muslims part of Bharat are not original but exclusively Hindus who had been converted by the Mughal regime for many centuries. I am neither supporting Hindu terrorism nor Muslim terrorism. There is no sense in any terrorism. Terrorism means full destruction of the human kind. We all are human & have a basic right of existence peacefully provided we are safe. No other existing entity destructs us.

3 The peace does not mean allow others to attack you. The Bharat Hindus have been attacked many times in the past & they shall not be termed as Human beings should they continue to absorb unjust attacks. Tolerance & patience do not mean that you have to follow what Gandhi said. Gandhi might be right or might not be. To kill a person is an exclusive god’s will & the terrorists are not god & no Jihad allows to kill others. The Jihad never understands this sense while Jihadi mind does not work to an understanding function as his mind is permanently closed. When the mind does not work, the person cannot work on his own & does work like a donkey.

4 In the first place to commence with the terrorism actions, the donkeys do this job while the directors are the mules. The directors could be rather expert politicians who intend to use such donkeys for their own games & they have done that evidently. The beautiful Bharat of the past has been broken into pieces by these ruling bastards for their own ambitions while the innocent citizens have to suffer in any name. In Bharat, the politicians played with the hearts & the innocence of the people of Bharat in the name of religions as well as in the name of secularism.

5 Bharat has suffered a lot immensely by the actions of so called secular politicians. The Bharat does not care whether or not, it is a secular society. The secular society does not allow poverty removal or the progress of the society. The secular does not care for the national progress & the strengthening of the nation. The secular is an imaginary term with no meaning at all. The secular term has been used as a free weapon to create & allow the terrorism. The human must have all human rights but the existence & abuse of the secular term has denied the human various rights. The Hindu being divided & leniency has allowed the existence of the Jihadi terrorism. The existence of the missionaries as well as the Islamic Jihad are logically credited due to the division among the Hindu society. Hindu society has allowed the existence of Christianity as well as Islam rapid spread in Bharat.

6 It is absolute true that the Hindus are themselves responsible for the secularism based tragic terrorism in Bharat today. The bloody politicians have done nothing to keep the nation secular but the term secularism has helped to keep the nation non secular. It is unfortunate that for the sake of the vote bank politics, the government does not care for the failed secularism & the factual rise of the terrorism. More than many decades have elapsed while the GOI did not even have time to think to eliminate the terrorism but rather have helped the terrorist to flourish all over the Bharat nation & now shaking hands with the Pakistan for the joint mechanism. The bloody Joint mechanism???? No one can teach these theoretical imaginary politicians for what they intend to do just for the political gains. The Pakistan who was never our friend & I challenge, can never be our friend, does not qualify to work with us like a partner on the Joint mechanism. Our leaders can never learn despite holding rubbish experience & highest western university degrees. The failure of the economy is an evident example indicating the lack of knowledge on the part of the politicians.

7 This lack of knowledge is also depicted during their failure to resolve the terrorism issue. The resolution is that announce 500,000 rupees for the killed & 50,000 for the injured by the terrorism so that the public do not demand action on the terrorists. It is in fact very good policy that at least proclaims that the GOI is too good for the decision of the life valuation amount. It clearly indicates that the GOI has virtually bought the citizens life. They think that any citizen of Bharat who walks on the roads cannot earn more than 500,000 during the life time. After paying this much sum, there should be no complaint from the terrorism. Well done the dear GOI.

8 A population of one billion people has been attacked by a thousands terrorists & the leaders are just statement makers. The citizen votes only for the statements!!!!! Nobody can believe this much level of tolerance around the world. Yes, Muslims have to answer for the acts of the terrorists. The Hindus have a right to security. The public is not secured while the leaders are well guarded. Who shall secure the citizen? No PM, No Advani, No Amar & No other bloody fool leader like Lalu or CPM or else?

9 The citizen of Bharat attacked by the foreign directed Jihadis have to certainly protect themselves. There is only one way out that all citizens must have small training to at least earning a stamina to throw out the fear from being attacked by the terrorists. Talks shall not help. The action alone would help. The failure of the GOI would not help. The Bharat may be a big nation or Kashmir may be an integrated part but this does not provide the security to the nation & its owners. Then, what the affected innocent citizen should do? Either the innocent has to be loyal to the terrorists to be ready to be killed any time of the day or the night or the citizen has to prepare on the similar patterns as the terrorists have been. The existence or non existence of the secular fabric of the nation does not give any consideration to a person who is going to be killed by the terrorists. The person has to loosen the right to natural living & to the natural death. One has to die at the hands of the terrorist.

10 The nature says that tolerance of injustice is also a crime. In this case, the innocent citizen gets by operation of natural justice a right to kill the expected terrorists for the self protection. The dreaded terrorists from Jihad have a plan to eliminate Hindus from Bharat so that they can rule on Bharat in an Islamic system. By operation of natural actions the Hindu gets an absolute right to kill the terrorists. Then, the Hindus must prepare to learn & apply professionally, the science of terrorism on to those who started the terrorism. This terrorism was started when the Bharat was taken over by the Islam Mughals centuries back & the cumulative growth has been going on in the name of secular politics. Bharat has to remain Bharat & not as Islamic Bharat. The Islamic Bharat is out of our imagination. The affected persons of Bharat have every right to protect themselves by applying exercise of counter terrorism by resorting to kill the Muslim terrorists.

11 Those who advocate the human rights of the terrorists & those who propel them are condemned whoever those activists are. It was a bad news that a Hindu Sadhvi was involved on the actions of the terrorism but this could be the beginning of the long pending action. The Jihadis must be taught strongest lesson that for Hindus also, the Dharma says that non believers of the Dharma are Kaffirs. The Hindus shall call them Rakshas in place of Kaffirs. These senseless devils have to be sent to their right destination that is the hell. All those political devils must also be taught good lessons who factually do their profession from the secular platform that is virtually communal.

I am asking the people of the nation that must force the GOI now or in future to eliminate the terrorism from the land by resorting to all actions or otherwise, the nation may have to welcome to see more terror from, the religious fundamentals.

Jain Bharat Vandematram

P Eng Suraj Singh



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subject : BHARAT WAS NEVER SECULAR.... SURAJ SINGHJI, NAMASKAR AND JAI HIND. Please note that Hindu religion teaches mainly tolerance, patience and forgiveness. Ever since invaders like the Moslems came to India, they had a free hand and many of the Hindu kings collaborated with them to defeat their local enemies. Now the Islamis are so well-entrenched in India, whatever is left of it, that there is little chance that things are going to change in the near future. Even Mr. Advani, if he comes in power, will remain soft to Moslems. That's what Advani also stands for like Vajpayee. I can only look to God if he wants Islam to take over India fully or wants to change it at some stage! To imagine that Hindus in general will become terrorists like the Islamis, is out of the question. Moreover, Islam professes terrorism, murder of the kafirs, i.e. non-believers. So how you are going to contend against such a religion which has only succeeded in spreading all over the world through its terrorism and force. SHER AGRAWAL
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Tuesday, October 21, 2008

ONE MAN SAVED EUROPE, ONE MAN SUNK INDIA TO ISLAM

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[prohindu] Hinduism and Prithviraj Chauhan (ONE MAN SAVED EUROPE FROM ISLAM, ONE MAN LOST INDIA TO ISLAM)

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ONE MAN SAVED EUROPE FROM ISLAM, ONE MAN LOST INDIA TO ISLAM

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Charles Martel was one man who in history saved Europe from Islam. European nations, England not excluded, perhaps would have been Muslim countries today but for this single man Charles Martel. Christianity could have vanished from Europe from the 8th Century AD but for him! Fascinating, is it not?

How many of us know about it? Thanks to bland history writing, such facts of "macrohistorical" significance stay hidden from the common man. I should be expecting Europe to be running amok with the statues of Charles Martel, in every town and village, for having saved Christianity from Islam in Europe! Oddly, most Europeans themselves are not aware of Charles Martel and his critical deeds.



In contrast, one man in India is eminently responsible for the surrender of India to Islam, and to the beginning of Islamic rule which lasted nearly 800 years, and that is Prithviraj Chauhan.



We must study these two contrasting men.



CHARLES MARTEL:



Before talking about Martel, we must talk about Islam, and quickly trace its beginnings and history. We all know something about the life and teachings of Prophet Mohammad who died in 632 AD. His followers, the illiterate Arabic tribal hordes, made Islamic conquests, by the sheer power of the sword, of vast lands inhabited by men who belonged to very rich civilizations. Certainly the sword was mightier than the pen.



In less than a Century after the passing away of Prophet Mohammad, the Arab Islamic tribes, with the help of the sword, conquered what constitute parts of the present-day Iran, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco, and crossing the Gibraltar, took over nearly the whole of the Iberian peninsula, now consisting of Spain and Portugal. Thus Spain came under Islam, and the Islamic rule lasted nearly 700 years there, until the Reconquista (Restoration of Christianity) was complete in 1492 with the fall of Granada from Muslim rule.



Charles Martel's fame consists in stopping the Islamic hordes from running into France and into the whole of Europe by his famous victory in 732 AD, exactly 100 years after the Prophet's demise, at "the battle of Tours" ( also called "the battle of Poitiers", since the fighting really took place in between Tours and Poitiers).



It is interesting to read Charles Martel's life history. But a very brief sketch will do here. He was born around 688 AD in the then Frankish Realms, son of Pippin the Middle (lovely sounding, right?) and his concubine Alpaida (you can't get closer to Al-qaida!). The boy Carolus (Charles) became a great soldier and a General in due course of time. He adopted a unique military strategy, unknown in those days. His strategy had three elements. One, attack where the enemies don't expect you. Two, attack when the enemies do not expect you. Thirdly, pretend retreat (an Oriental tactic) and then make a surprise attack!



Leading the Frankish army, General Charles Martel hammered the Islamic forces lead by Abdul Rahman, the Emir of Cordoba (Incidentally, I have had the good fortune of visiting the lovely town of Cordoba in Spain.) Thus, the violent Islamic forces were stopped from crossing the Pyrenees mountain ranges. France and the rest of Western Europe were thus saved from Islam.



Charles got the cognomen Martel which means "hammer" due to the hammering he meted out to the Islamic forces. Charles Martel established the Carolingian dynasty, and his famous grandson Charlemagne (meaning Charles the Great) became the Emperor of Western Europe.



In my view, history text books do not do enough justice to the name of Charles Martel. His grandson Charlemagne consumes much more historical writing than him, most unfortunately.





PRITHVIRAJ CHAUHAN:



Closer to home, we are very familiar with this Rajput hero, the second-last Hindu King (the last was Hemu, his son) to rule from Delhi.



Prithviraj (also known as Rai Pithora, hence Pithoragarh) was a powerful ruler from Delhi. His reign has been chronicled by his court poet Chand Bardoi. As per the latter's account, Prithviraj was infatuated with Samyukta, the beautiful daughter of the rival king Raja Jaichand of Kannauj, and abducted her on horse-back (in cinematic fashion) further raising the utter enmity of Raja Jaichand. Samyukta was also party to it as she fancied Prithviraj. The intricacies of this love-lore should be read by each of us as they are so fascinating.



The Afghan ruler of Ghazni, known as Mohammad Ghori (who succeeded "Mahmud Ghazni", the Gujerat invader and sacker of Somnath) invaded Punjab and conquered his way up to very close to Delhi. However, his forces were defeated by the forces of Prithviraj Chauhan in the first battle of Tarain in 1191 AD. Ghori was badly wounded and his army was thrashed. It is said that Raja Jaichand gave military support to the Chauhan king, and the combined forces were too strong for the Muslim enemy.



It is stated that Mohammad Ghori was brought in captivity to Delhi. King Chauhan's advisors suggested that he be beheaded. But in the magnanimous Rajput tradition, Prithviraj allowed him to go away scot-free. The very next year, in 1192 AD, Ghori came back with an attack. This time Raja Jaichand refused to support Chauhan with his forces. (Hence, the clubbing of Jaichand and Mir Jaffar as our national traitors!).

Chauan lost to Ghori in the second battle of Tarain in 1192 AD. Delhi came under Islam. (It is stated that Chauhan was taken to Ghazni, his eyes were gouged out, and he was eventually buried there).



I would think that the naivety of Chauhan caused the downfall of Delhi which went under Islamic rule for nearly eight Centuries. His letting off of Ghori scot-free was a totally thoughtless action. If only Chauhan had beheaded Ghori or at least kept him incarcerated, India's history could perhaps have been different. I will not accuse Raja Jaichand for India's Islamic conquest. Not in any case as much as I would accuse Chauhan.





One man saved Europe from Islam. One man lost India to Islam.





(PS: I do not want to be judgmental here about religions. It is not that Islamic rule did no good to India or that there were no Christian atrocities in Europe. But today, Islam has become a hot topic in the world due to terrorism of the worst kind.)




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The art on flying in ancient India

Many researchers into the UFO enigma tend to overlook a very important fact. While it assumed that most flying saucers are of alien, or perhaps Governmental Military origin, another possible origin of UFOs is ancient India and Atlantis.

What we know about ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources; written texts that have come down to us through the centuries. There is no doubt that most of these texts are authentic; many are the well known ancient Indian Epics themselves, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old Sanskrit.

The Indian Emperor Ashoka started a "Secret Society of the Nine Unknown Men": great Indian scientists who were supposed to catalogue the many sciences. Ashoka kept their work secret because he was afraid that the advanced science catalogued by these men, culled from ancient Indian sources, would be used for the evil purpose of war, which Ashoka was strongly against, having been converted to Buddhism after defeating a rival army in a bloody battle.

The "Nine Unknown Men" wrote a total of nine books, presumably one each. Book number was "The Secrets of Gravitation!" This book, known to historians, but not actually seen by them dealt chiefly with "gravity control." It is presumably still around somewhere, kept in a secret library in India, Tibet or elsewhere (perhaps even in North America somewhere). One can certainly understand Ashoka's reasoning for wanting to keep such knowledge a secret, assuming it exists. if the Nazis had such weapons at their disposal during World War Ii. Ashoka was also aware devastating wars using such advanced vehicles and other "futuristic weapons" that had destroyed the ancient Indian "Rama Empire" several thousand years before.

Only a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some Sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships!

Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull." According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate.

Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima"; "the cap of invisibility" and "garima"; "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."

Naturally, Indian scientists did not take the texts very seriously, but then became more positive about the value of them when the Chinese announced that they were including certain parts of the data for study in their space program! This was one of the first instances of a government admitting to be researching anti-gravity.

The manuscripts did not say definitely that interplanetary travel was ever made but did mention, of all things, a planned trip to the Moon, though it is not clear whether this trip was actually carried out. However, one of the great Indian epics, the Ramayana, does have a highly detailed story in it of a trip to the moon in a Vimana (or "Astra"), and in fact details a battle on the moon with an "Asvin" (or Atlantean" airship.

This is but a small bit of recent evidence of anti-gravity and aerospace technology used by Indians. To really understand the technology, we must go much further back in time.

The so-called "Rama Empire" of Northern India and Pakistan developed at least fifteen thousand years ago on the Indian sub-continent and was a nation of many large, sophisticated cities, many of which are still to be found in the deserts of Pakistan, northern, and western India. Rama existed, apparently, parallel to the Atlantean civilization in the mid-Atlantic Ocean, and was ruled by "enlightened Priest-Kings" who governed the cities, The seven greatest capital cities of Rama were known in classical Hindu texts as "The Seven Rishi Cities."

According to ancient Indian texts, the people had flying machines which were called "Vimanas." The ancient Indian epic describes a Vimana as a double-deck, circular aircraft with portholes and a dome, much as we would imagine a flying saucer.

It flew with the "speed of the wind" and gave forth a "melodious sound." There were at least four different types of Vimanas; some saucer shaped, others like long cylinders ("cigar shaped airships"). The ancient Indian texts on Vimanas are so numerous, it would take volumes to relate what they had to say. The ancient Indians, who manufactured these ships themselves, wrote entire flight manuals on the control of the various types of Vimanas, many of which are still in existence, and some have even been translated into English.

The Samara Sutradhara is a scientific treatise dealing with every possible angle of air travel in a Vimana. There are 230 stanzas dealing with the construction, take-off, cruising for thousand of miles, normal and forced landings, and even possible collisions with birds. In 1875, the Vaimanika Sastra, a fourth century B.C. text written by Bharadvajy the Wise, using even older texts as his source, was rediscovered in a temple in India. It dealt with the operation of Vimanas and included information on the steering, precautions for long flights, protection of the airships from storms and lightening and how to switch the drive to "solar energy" from a free energy source which sounds like "anti-gravity."

The Vaimanika Sastra (or Vymaanika-Shaastra) has eight chapters with diagrams, describing three types of aircraft, including apparatuses that could neither catch on fire nor break. It also mentions 31 essential parts of these vehicles and 16 materials from which they are constructed, which absorb light and heat; for which reason they were considered suitable for the construction of Vimanas. This document has been translated into English and is available by writing the publisher: VYMAANIDASHAASTRA AERONAUTICS by Maharishi Bharadwaaja, translated into English and edited, printed and published by Mr. G. R. Josyer, Mysore, India, 1979 (sorry, no street address). Mr. Josyer is the director of the International Academy of Sanskrit Investigation located in Mysore.

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There seems to be no doubt that Vimanas were powered by some sort of "anti-gravity." Vimanas took off vertically, and were capable of hovering in the sky, like a modern helicopter or dirigible. Bharadvajy the Wise refers to no less than 70 authorities and 10 experts of air travel in antiquity. These sources are now lost.

Vimanas were kept in a Vimana Griha, a kind of hanger, and were sometimes said to be propelled by a yellowish-white liquid, and sometimes by some sort of mercury compound, though writers seem confused in this matter. It is most likely that the later writers on Vimanas, wrote as observers and from earlier texts, and were understandably confused on the principle of their propulsion. The "yellowish-white liquid" sounds suspiciously like gasoline, and perhaps Vimanas had a number of different propulsion sources, including combustion engines and even "pulse-jet" engines. It is interesting to note, that the Nazis developed the first practical pulse-jet engines for their V-8 rocket "buzz bombs." Hitler and the Nazi staff were exceptionally interested in ancient India and Tibet and sent expeditions to both these places yearly, starting in the 30's, in order to gather esoteric evidence that they did so, and perhaps it was from these people that the Nazis gained some of their scientific information!

According to the Dronaparva, part of the Mahabarata, and the Ramayana, one Vimana described was shaped like a sphere and born along at great speed on a mighty wind generated by mercury. It moved like a UFO, going up, down, backwards and forewards as the pilot desired. In another Indian source, the Samar, Vimanas were "iron machines, well-knit and smooth, with a charge of mercury that shot out of the back in the form of a roaring flame." Another work called the Samaranganasutradhara describes how the vehicles were constructed. It is possible that mercury did have something to do with the propulsion, or more possibly, with the guidance system. Curiously, Soviet scientists have discovered what they call "age-old instruments used in navigating cosmic vehicles" in caves in Turkestan and the Gobi Desert. The "devices" are hemispherical objects of glass or porcelain, ending in a cone with a drop of mercury inside.

It is evident that ancient Indians flew around in these vehicles, all over Asia, to Atlantis presumably; and even, apparently, to South America. Writing found at Mohenjodaro in Pakistan (presumed to be one of the "Seven Rishi Cities of the Rama Empire") and still undeciphered, has also been found in one other place in the world: Easter Island! Writing on Easter Island, called Rongo-Rongo writing, is also undeciphered, and is uncannily similar to the Mohenjodaro script. Was Easter Island an air base for the Rama Empire's Vimana route? (At the Mohenjo-Daro Vimana-drome, as the passenger walks down the concourse, he hears the sweet, melodic sound of the announcer over the loudspeaker,

"Rama Airways flight number seven for Bali, Easter Island, Nazca, and Atlantis is now ready for boarding. Passengers please proceed to gate number..") in Tibet, no small distance, and speaks of the "fiery chariot" thusly: "Bhima flew along in his car, resplendent as the sun and loud as thunder... The flying chariot shone like a flame in the night sky of summer ... it swept by like a comet... It was as if two suns were shining. Then the chariot rose up and all the heaven brightened."

In the Mahavira of Bhavabhuti, a Jain text of the eighth century culled from older texts and traditions, we read:

"An aerial chariot, the Pushpaka, conveys many people to the capital of Ayodhya. The sky is full of stupendous flying-machines, dark as night, but picked out by lights with a yellowish glare"

The Vedas, ancient Hindu poems, thought to be the oldest of all the Indian texts, describe Vimanas of various shapes and sizes: the "ahnihotra-vimana" with two engines, the "elephant-vimana" with more engines, and other types named after the kingfisher, ibis and other animals.

Unfortunately, Vimanas, like most scientific discoveries, were ultimately used for war. Atlanteans used their flying machines, "Vailixi," a similar type of aircraft, to literally try and subjugate the world, it would seem, if Indian texts are to be believed. The Atlanteans, known as "Asvins" in the Indian writings, were apparently even more advanced technologically than the Indians, and certainly of a more war-like temperment. Although no ancient texts on Atlantean Vailixi are known to exist, some information has come down through esoteric, "occult" sources which describe their flying machines. Similar, if not identical to Vimanas, Vailixi were generally "cigar shaped" and had the capability of maneuvering underwater as well as in the atmosphere or even outer space. Other vehicles, like Vimanas, were saucer shaped, and could apparently also be submerged.

According to Eklal Kueshana, author of "The Ultimate Frontier," in an article he wrote in 1966, Vailixi were first developed in Atlantis 20,000 years ago, and the most common ones are "saucer-shaped of generally trapezoidal cross-section with three hemispherical engine pods on the underside." "They use a mechanical antigravity device driven by engines developing approximately 80,000 horse power."

The Ramayana, Mahabarata and other texts speak of the hideous war that took place, some ten or twelve thousand years ago between Atlantis and Rama using weapons of destruction that could not be imagined by readers until the second half of this century.

The ancient Mahabharata, one of the sources on Vimanas, goes on to tell the awesome destructiveness of the war:

"...(the weapon was) a single projectile
charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendor...

An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis
And the Andhakas.

... the corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.

... After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
... to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment..."

It would seem that the Mahabharata is describing an atomic war! References like this one are not isolated; but battles, using a fantastic array of weapons and aerial vehicles are common in all the epic Indian books. One even describes a Vimana-Vailix battle on the Moon! The above section very accurately describes what an atomic explosion would look like and the effects of the radioactivity on the population. Jumping into water is the only respite.

When the Rishi City of Mohenjodaro was excavated by archeologists in the last century, they found skeletons just lying in the streets, some of them holding hands, as if some great doom had suddenly overtaken them. These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on a par with those found at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Ancient cities whose brick and stone walls have literally been vitrified, that is-fused together, can be found in India, Ireland, Scotland, France, Turkey and other places. There is no logical explanation for the vitrification of stone forts and cities, except from an atomic blast. Furthermore, at Mohenjo-Daro, a well planned city laid on a grid, with a plumbing system superior to those used in Pakistan and India today, the streets were littered with "black lumps of glass." These globs of glass were discovered to be clay pots that had melted under intense heat!

With the cataclysmic sinking of Atlantis and the wiping out of Rama with atomic weapons, the world collapsed into a "stone age" of sorts, and modern history picks up a few thousand years later. Yet, it would seem that not all the Vimanas and Vailixi of Rama and Atlantis were gone. Built to last for thousands of of years, many of them would still be in use, as evidenced by Ashoka's "Nine Unknown Men" and the Lhasa manuscript.

That secret societies or "Brotherhoods" of exceptional, "enlightened" human beings would have preserved these inventions and the knowledge of science, history, etc., does not seem surprising. Many well known historical personages including Jesus, Buddha, Lao Tzu, Confucius, Krishna, Zoroaster, Mahavira, Quetzalcoatl, Akhenaton, Moses, and more recent inventors and of course many other people who will probably remain anonymous, were probably members of such a secret organization.

It is interesting to note that when Alexander the Great invaded India more than two thousand years ago, his historians chronicled that at one point they were attacked by "flying, fiery shields" that dove at his army and frightened the cavalry. These "flying saucers" did not use any atomic bombs or beam weapons on Alexander's army however, perhaps out of benevolence, and Alexander went on to conquer India.

It has been suggested by many writers that these "Brotherhoods" keep some of their Vimanas and Vailixi in secret caverns in Tibet or some other place is Central Asia, and the Lop Nor Desert in western China is known to be the center of a great UFO mystery. Perhaps it is here that many of the airships are still kept, in underground bases much as the Americans, British and Soviets have built around the world in the past few decades.

Still, not all UFO activity can be accounted for by old Vimanas making trips to the Moon for some reason. Undoubtedly, some are from the Military Governments of the world, and possibly even from other planets. Of course, many UFO sightings are "swamp, gas, clouds, hoaxes, and hallucinations, while there is considerable evidence that many UFO sightings, especially "kidnappings" and the like, are the result of what is generally called "telepathic hypnosis." One common thread that often runs between "Alien kidnappings," "sex with aliens," and other "close encounters of a third kind" is a buzzing in the ears just before the encounter. According to many well informed people, this is a sure sign of telepathic hypnosis."

RVR



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Monday, October 20, 2008

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[prohindu] FW: [StephenKnappNewsList] Who Will Defend the Vedic Tradition??

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deen chandora Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:26 AM
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Namaste,
Please pass this email to all the groups you or any one you belong. Please give wide publicity.
Thanks
Deen b Chandora




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To: StephenKnappNewsList@yahoogroups.com
From: srinandan@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:30:33 -0400
Subject: [StephenKnappNewsList] Who Will Defend the Vedic Tradition??



Namaste,
What follows is a prime example of how Hindus need to stick together and help one another in defending the cause of protecting and preserving Sanatana-Dharma, and how a tendency to limit freedom of speech is growing wherever there are fanatic Muslims who are easily offended by any criticism, even when such criticism is truthful.
As followers of the Vedic tradition, we must become stronger than this, or else we are permitting the prescription for a slow extinction of the Vedic way of life. This is how Vedic culture will be destroyed, when no one any longer stands up to defend it.
Hari Om and Hari bol,
Stephen Knapp
www.stephen-knapp.com


Dear Hindu Brothers,
Mr. R.V. Bhasin, a Supreme Court Lawyer, residing in Mumbai, had written a Book "Islam - A Concept of Political World Invasion by Muslims". A group of about 20 Muslims made a representation to the CM of Maharashtra, in March 2007, and the book was banned. The police raided his office and confiscated about 1000 copies of the book. At that time, I sent this msg to many newspapers, but no one bothered to publish it or follow it up. May be because a Hindu was the victim.
Mr. Bhasin subsequently filed a PIL in the Mumbai High Court challenging the legality of the ban order and confiscation of the book. The case is being heard in the Mumbai High Court.
Three Muslims organisations - Jamait-a-Hind, Muslims Lawyers Forum and (another one whose name I do not remember) have got implicated in the case against Mr. Bhasin. Mr. Bhasin was himself arguing his case. When he read verses from the Quran to prove his point, the Court was taken aback. The Judge and the Lawyers assembled were surprised at the revelation. This has infuriated the Muslims. Every day during arguments, about 20-25 Muslim Lawyers used to gather at the Court Room, to bring moral and metal pressure both on Mr. Bhasin and the Court. Unfortunately, Mr. Bhasin is assisted by only one lawyer and therefore they are weak in numerical strength and feel isolated. This has demoralised Mr. Bhasin, as the menacing Muslims may snatch victory by their numerical strength.
When I heared of this case coming up for hearing, I talked to Mr. Bhasin on phone. He was a bit demoralised as he feels as though he is fighting alone for a Hindu cause. He feels let down by the Hindu society.
Mr. Bhasin needs the help of Hindus and Hindu Lawyers to be with him at the time of arguments, so that it acts as a moral booster for Mr. Bhasin. He needs the moral support of Hindus. Interested Hindus, especially Hindu lawyers, may get in touch with him at his tel. no. 022-22045054, 22845004. He resides in Colaba, Mumbai. I appeal to Hindus all over the world who know some Hindu lawyers in Mumbai to kindly inform him/them, so that they lend moral support to Mr. Bhasin.
P. Deivamuthu
Editor, Hindu Voice