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From: RADHASYAM BRAHMACHARI
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Subject: [Shakti-L: 2714] MUST READ: A Declaration By the Ex-MUSLIMS


A Declaration By the

Ex-MUSLIMS



Who we are:

We are ex-Muslims. Some of us were born and raised in Islam and some of us had converted to Islam at some moment in our lives. We were taught never to question the truth of Islam and to believe in Allah and his messenger with blind faith. We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief (Quran 4:48 and 4:116). But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was imposed on us and we came to realize that far from being a religion of truth, Islam is a hoax, it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits.



What we believe:

Some of us have embraced other religions but most of us have simply left Islam without believing in any other religion. We believe in humanity. We believe that humans do not need to follow a religion to be good. All we need to follow is the Golden Rule. All we have to do is to treat others the way we expect to be treated. This is the essence of all the goodness. All good religious teachings stem from this eternal principle. This is the ultimate guidance humanity need. This is the Golden Rule.



Why Mohammed was not a prophet:

One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.



Why Quran is not from God:

Muhammad produced no miracles and when pressed he claimed that his miracle is the Quran. Yet a cursory look at the Quran reveals that this book is full of errors. Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities, grammatical errors and ethical fallacies. It is badly compiled and it contradicts itself. There is nothing intelligent in this book let alone miraculous. Muhammad challenged people to produce a “Surah like it” or find an error therein, yet Muslims would kill anyone who dares to criticize it. In such a climate of hypocrisy and violence truth is the first casualty.



What is our goal?

We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam. Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind.



Mankind’s biggest challenge:

Today the humanity is facing a great danger. Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise and the hatred is brewing in the minds of millions of Muslims. This hatred must be contained or there would be disastrous consequences. We believe that the education is the only answer. Muslim intellectuals must realize that Islam is a false doctrine and they must let the rest of Islamic world know the truth. Islam is a religion that thrives on the arrogant assumption that it is the most logical, the most scientific and the most perfect religion. While the fact is that it is the stupidest doctrine — the most backward and absurd belief. Once the truth about Islam becomes common knowledge, it will be weakened and the Islamic fanaticism will lose its fangs. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being expended to combat Islamic terrorism, yet no effort is made to contain the ideology behind this terrorism. It is our belief that Islamic terrorism will not be eliminated unless and until the ideology behind it is exposed and eradicated. This is what we intend to do.

* * * The Apostates of Islam





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तीन


आज तो मन अनमना गाता नहीं
खुद बहल औरों को बहलाता नहीं

आदमी मिलना बहुत मुश्किल हुआ
और मिलता है तो रह पाता नहीं

गलतियों पर गलतियाँ करते सभी
गलतियों पर कोई पछताता नहीं

दूसरों के नंगपन पर आँख है
दूसरों की आँख सह पाता नहीं

मालियों की भीड़ तो हर ओर है
किंतु कोई फूल गंधाता नहीं

सामने है रास्ता सबके मगर
रास्ता तो खुद कहीं जाता नहीं

धमनियों में खून के बदले धुआँ
हड्डियाँ क्यों कोई दहकाता नहीं

चार


हमने खुद को नकार कर देखा
आप अपने से हार कर देखा

जब भी आकाश हो गया बहरा
खुद में खुद को पुकार कर देखा

उनका निर्माण-शिल्प भी हमने
अपना खंडहर बुहार कर देखा

लोग पानी से गुज़रते हमने
सिर से पानी गुजार कर देखा

हमने इस तौर मुखौटे देखे
अपना चेहरा उतार कर देखा

EK GAZAL

Tuesday, May 20, 2008
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इस पोस्ट के सभी चित्र : अवधेश मिश्र

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चेहरे तो मायूस मुखौटों पर मुस्कानें दुनिया की
शो-केसों में सजी हुईं खाली दुकानें दुनिया की

यों तो जीवन के कालिज में हमने भी कम नहीं पढ़ा
फिर भी सीख न पाए हम कुछ खास जुबानें दुनिया की

हमने आँखें आसमान में रख दीं खुल कर देखेंगे
कंधों से कंधों पर लेकिन हुईं उड़ानें दुनिया की

इन्क़लाब के कारण हमने जमकर ज़िन्दाबाद किया
पड़ीं भांजनी तलवारों के भ्रम में म्यानें दुनिया की

हमने जो भी किया समझवालों को समझ नहीं आया
खुद पर तेल छिड़ककर निकले आग बुझाने दुनिया की

बड़े-बड़े दिग्गज राहों पर सूँड घुमाते घूम रहे
अपनी ही हस्ती पहचानें या पहचानें दुनिया की

फूट पसीना रोआँ-रोआँ हम पर हँसता कहता है
क्या खुद को ही दफनाने को खोदीं खानें दुनिया की
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अमेरिका: अमीर भारतीय महिला की क्रूरता
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28 जून 2008
एजेंसियां

न्यूयार्क। अमेरिका में भारतीय मूल की एक महिला को अपने घर में दो इंडोनेशियाई नौकरानियों को गुलाम बनाकर रखने के आरोप में 11 वर्ष की कैद की सजा सुनाई गई है।

सेंट्रल इस्लिप की जिला अदालत ने 46 वर्षीया वर्षा सभनानी को 11 वर्ष की कैद के अलावा उसे तीन वर्ष के प्रोबेशन और 25 हजार डॉलर जुर्माने की सजा भी सुनाई गई है।

पढ़ें: अमेरिका: भारतीय व्यापारी को 3 साल की कैद

वर्षा के साथ उसके करोड़पति पति महेंद्र सभनानी को भी दोषी पाया गया। माना जा रहा है कि महेंद्र को शुक्रवार को सजा सुनाई जाएगी। उन्हें दो से तीन वर्ष की कैद की सजा मिल सकती है।

वर्षा ने जिन दो महिलाओं को गुलाम बनाकर रखा था, उसमें से एक 2002 और दूसरी 2005 में इंडोनेशिया से आई थी। इन दोनों को वर्षा पैसे नहीं देती थी बलिक इनके परिवार वालों को सौ डॉलर प्रति महीने भेज देती थी। उनके पासपोर्ट और सभी कानूनी कागजात चीन लिए गए थे और उन्हें लगातार मारा-पीटा जाता था, भूखे रखा जाता था।

एक बार जब एक नौकरानी भूख बर्दाश्त नहीं कर पाने के कारण कचरे के डिब्बे से खाना बीन कर खाने लगी तो वर्षा ने उसे लाल मिर्चियां खाने पर मजबूर किया और मिर्च खाते-खाते जब कड़ुवाहट बर्दाश्त नहीं कर पाने के कारण नौकरानी ने उल्टी कर दी तो उसे वर्षा ने वही वमन वापस खाने पर मजबूर किया।

वर्षा उन नौकरानियों को फर्श पर सोने और कड़कड़ाती ठंड में ठंडे पानी से नहाने की सजा अक्सर देती थी।

उसका भांडा तब फूटा जब कुछ महीने पहले उसकी एक नौकरानी घर से निकल भागी। वह घूमती हुई एक खाने के स्टोर में चली गई। तब उसके बदन पर कपड़े नहीं बलि फटे- पुराने चीथड़े लटक रहे थे। उसकी हाल्त देख कर स्टोर के मालिक ने पुलिस को फोन कर दिया।

वर्षा को अमानवीय प्रताड़ना देने के आरोप में और उसके पति महेन्द्र को इन अत्याचारों को नहीं रोकने तथा उससे लाभ उठाने के आरोप में सजा मिलेगी।

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SUTESH TULSIAN JHUNJHUNU
Jun 28, 2008
जिस महिला ने इतना अमानवीय कृत्य किया है उसे 11 साल सज़ा के साथ वही प्रताड़ना मिलनी चाहिए जो उसने उन लोगों को दी है..क्योंकि विदेशों की तो ज़ेल भी शानदार होती है...इस महिला की वज़ह से भारतीयों के सम्मान को ठेस पहुंचती है...
kusum negi New Delhi
Jun 28, 2008
यह ख़बर पढ़ने के बाद बड़ी ग्लानि महसूस हुई, क्योंकि इंडिया में औरत को लक्ष्मी का रूप माना जाता है...उसने अगर ऐसा किया है तो उसे सख़्त से सख़्त सज़ा मिलनी चाहिए और साथ ही उन दोनों नौकरनियों को आर्थिक मदद प्रदान करनी चाहिए....
BHUPENDRA PRATAP SINGH GAZIABAD
Jun 28, 2008
मानवता ही मनुष्य का सबसे बड़ा धर्म है...मनुष्य किसी भी जाति, धर्म या देश का हो पर सबसे पहले उसमें मानवता होनी चाहिए...ऐसे क्रूर महिला को तो शायद भगवान भी माफ़ ना करे...
Ramesh Maithani Dehradun Uttrakhand
Jun 28, 2008
पिछले 6 साल से मैं जकार्ता इंडोनएसिया मैं रहता हू. यहा के लोग मतलब इंडोनएसियन हिंदुस्तनियो की बहुत रेस्पेक्ट करते है. मैं ये सोच रहा हू की अगर येह ख़बर यहा जकार्ता के लोकल अख़बार मैं छप गयी तो कितनी ईमेज ख़राब होगी.
AJay Jakarta

ARE THESE NOT THE FACTS OF THE ISLAMIS

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Professor Wichman E-mail



Claim: A Michigan professor sent an e-mail telling Muslim students to leave the country.

Status: True.

The story begins at Michigan State University

with a mechanical engineering professor named

Indrek Wichman.



Wichman sent an e-mail to the Muslim Student's Association.

The e-mail was in response to the students' protest

of the Danish cartoons

that portrayed the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist.



The group had complained the cartoons were

'hate speech'



Enter Professor Wichman.

In his e-mail, he said the following:

Dear Moslem Association,

As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU

I intend to protest your protest.

I am offended not by cartoons,

but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians,

cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders,

murders of Catholic priests

(the latest in Turkey ),

burnings of Christian churches,

the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt ,

the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims,

the rapes of Scandinavian girls and women

(called 'whores' in your culture),

the murder of film directors in Holland ,

and the rioting and looting in Paris France .



This is what offends me,

a soft-spoken person and academic,

and many, many of my colleagues.

I counsel you dissatisfied, aggressive, brutal,

and uncivilized slave-trading Moslems

to be very aware of this as you proceed

with your infantile 'protests.'



If you do not like the values of the West

- see the 1st Amendment -

you are free to leave.



I hope for God's sake

that most of you choose that option.

Please return to your ancestral homelands

and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.

Cordially,

I. S. Wichman

Professor of Mechanical Engineering



As you can imagine,

the Muslim group at the university didn't like this too well.

They're demanding that Wichman be reprimanded

and the university impose mandatory diversity training for faculty

and mandate a seminar on hate and discrimination for all freshmen.



Now the local chapter of CAIR has jumped into the fray.

CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations,

apparently doesn't believe that the good professor

had the right to express his opinion.



For its part,

the university is standing its ground

in support of Professor Wichman,

saying the e-mail was private,

and they don't intend to publicly condemn his remarks.













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NOW ZAKIR NAIK IS IN THE RAT-HOLE

Can the fellow dare to or can he reply!
NOW ZAKIR NAIK IS IN THE RAT- HOLE
Author : Dr Radhasyam Brahmac on Jun 23, 2008 - 01:46 AM


By Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari


When my article THE WORLD COMMUNITY OF MUSLIMS: Shackled People enslaved by the Koran appeared in the FFI website on December 11, 2007, a Muslim, in the nickname of “a believer”, commented that I was a rat and shouting from a rat-hole. He asked me to come out of the rat-hole and face Dr Zakir Naik, so that I may refresh my knowledge of Islam and get myself enlightened. He also said that Zakir Naik is capable of tackling a billion kafirs like me. I therefore decided to come out of my rat-hole and put ten questions to Zakir Naik on Islam in my article “A Few Questions to Dr Zakir Naik on Islam” which was posted in the FFI website on February 17, 2008. But till today, Zakir Naik has not come up to give replies to my queries. It is really amazing that a wise pundit like Zakir Naik, who can tackle billions of kafirs like me, is taking so much time to give reply to my very simple questions. This has led me to apprehend that he has no reply to offer.

Furthermore, in two subsequent articles, “Allah in the Vedas: Treachery of Dr Zakir Naik” and “Muhammad in the Vedas: Asinine Arguments of Dr zakir Naik” , I have denounced his claims that the Vedas mention Allah and Muhammad. But till today, there has been no indication that he would come forward to establish that his claims were genuine and my arguments were baseless. Every intelligent reader might have understood that Zakir Naik will never show his face again as it is not possible for a liar to withstand the heat of truth and he has, perhaps, taken shelter in a rat-hole. I therefore ask that learned reader ”a believer” , who advised me to face Zakir Naik, to request him to come out of his rat-hole and give replies to my questions.

But this author is more or less confident that Zakir Naik will not be able to find replies to my questions in his glorious Koran and in other Islamic scriptures as those books are stockpiles of lies, falsehood and contradictions. The creed of Islam, as I have understood after studying the creed for last 30 yrs, is an extremely brittle glassware hanging from the ceiling with the help of a delicate thread called the Kalima Taib that says “La Ilaha Illallah, Muhammadur Rasulullah” ( Allah is the only God to be worshipped and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah). If the thread breaks, the entire creed of Islam will be broken into pieces. Or in other words, Islam will evaporate if the belief in Kalima Taib weakens. One should notice that the first part of the said Kalima Taib, i.e. La Ilaha Illallah does not pose a serious threat to Islam, but the seond part, i.e. Muhammadur Rasulullah, does. If the belief in the Prophet-hood of Muhammad weakens, Islam would collapse within seconds.

So Muhammad should always be projected as the greatest man on earth. He should be projected as an apostle of peace by concealing his violent and most cruel deeds like massacring the Koreiza and Najir Jews. Divinity must be be sought in his marrying so many wives in his declining years, including his marrying Ayesha at the age of 52, when Ayesha was a child of 6. And his marrying Zeinab, the wife of his adopted son Zeid. Any rational comment on his life and deeds is to be declared a blasphemy and the commentator must be punished with death because the image of Muhammad is to be protected at any cost. This is the reason why Muslims are ready to tolerate even a criticism of Allah, but not of Muhammad. To every Muslim, he should be projected as ideal of Muslim behaviour or usha-in-hashna. What Muhammad said is to be followed strickly word by word and each and every Muslim should copy what he used to do without any question whatsoever.

Muhammad used to lick his fingers after having meals, so every Muslim is to do the same in a likewise manner. Muhammad disliked dogs and hence it not permissible for a Muslim to keep a dog as a pet. Muhammad disliked playing of chess and hence playing chess is forbidden for Muslims. Muhammad asked his followers to keep their beards and shave their mustaches so that they could be easily identified, and hence every Muslim has to keep beard and shave mustache. Every Muslim around the world should perform ablution before prayer exactly in the same way as Muhammad used to do 1400 years ago, and so on and so forth.

But difficulty arises if the believers try to copy all his deeds. Muhammad married his daughter in law Zeinab and if all the Muslims decide to imitate that holy sunnah of their Prophet, the situation will be extremely chaotic. Muhammad married 6 year-old Ayesha at 52, and if the believers proceed to follow this holy Sunnah of the Prophet today, they will be convicted, in any civilized country, of raping a child and put behind bars. Muhammad married Maimuna when he was in the state of muhrim (clad in the special pilgrimage garb called ihram). If all the pilgrims today, who proceed to Mecca to perform Hajj pilgrimage, want to marry a wife following the holy Sunnah of the Prophet, one can imagine how chaotic it would be. Muhammad kept 12 (or 22 according to the Shias) wives and if his followers try to imitate the Prophet in this aspect, they would be victims of Allah’s wrath, as He has not permitted them to increase their number wives beyond four at a time.

Though it is more or less certain that Zakir Naik would never come out of his rat-hole to give reply to my questions, I would like to place before him a few more questions on Islam.

Question No. 1

In one of my earlier writings, I have shown that Allah is not circumcised. According to the Hadith (Muslim-2872), Allah created Adam in His own image and hence simple commonsense says that, had Allah been circumcised he would have created Adam circumcised. And as a consequence all the believers would have born with natural circumcision and they would not need to undergo artificial circumcision after birth. The argument proves that Islamic God Allah is not circumcised. But the question remains – Was Prophet circumcised?

In fact, circumcision was a Jewish practice and Sir W Muir, in this regard says, “The practice is incumbent on Muslims as a part of the Sunna (custom or example of the Prophet), but it is curious that we have no authentic account of Mohammad’s own circumcision.” (The Life of Mahomet, Voice of India, New Delhi 1992, p- 191). When the Prophet died, attendants were prevented from making the body naked or looking at his naked dead body either, during the ritual bath before burial. To narrate the incident, Sir W Muir writes, “A heavenly voice was heard ordering not to bare the Prophet’s body, for the eyes of any one that looked upon his nakedness would forthwith be destroyed.” (ibid, p-191).

So my humble question to Zakir Naik is – Was the Prophet circumcised? Did any one of his wives, who only had the opportunity to see or feel Prophet’s private part, narrated any hadith in this regard?

Question No. 2

During Meraj, the Prophet saw that all the earlier Prophets were living in heaven. So it seems that, Prophets were allowed to enter Allah’s paradise just after their death and it was not necessary for them to wait in their graves till Qiyamah. So, one may conclude that Prophet Muhammad has already entered Allah’s paradise after his death and having good times there with houris and gelemans. Contrastingly, scriptures also say that, on the Day of Last Judgment (Qiyamah), the Prophet Muhammad would be the first man to enter Allah’s paradise with 70,000 followers. So, it becomes difficult for a kafir like me to ascertain where the Prophet is now staying. Has he gone to paradise, or is he lying in his grave and waiting for the Qiyamah? Hope that the wisdom of Zakir Naik will be able to remove my confusion in this regard.

Question No. 3

Allah sent Prophet Muhammad on this earth to establish Insaaf or justice that calls for equality of every individual, irrespective of his social, political or economic status, before law. Islam stands on five pillars, namely, Kalima, Namaz, Roja, Zaqat and Hajj. During Prophet’s life time, Allah ordained Zaqat, or spending a portion of the income of a believer for Allah’s cause by reveling several verses of the Koran, e.g. “You shall never be truly righteous until you give in alms what you dearly cherish. The alms you give are known to Allah”.(3,92) . “Those who give alms, be they men or women, and those who give a generous loan to Allah, shall be repaid twofold. They shall receive a noble recompense.” (57,18). “Who giveth his wealth that he may grow (in goodness),and none hath with him any favour for reward, except as seeking (to fulfil) the purpose of his Lord Most High” (92 : 18-20).

At that time, the Muslims who migrated from Mecca to Medina, were very poor and hence Muhammad asked his followers in Medina to spend a portion of their income, called Sadqa, for helping those immigrants. Later on Allah approved Sadqa (or alms) by reveling the verse of the Holy Koran that says “The alms (sadqa) are only for the poor and the needy, and those who collect them, and those whose hearts are to be reconciled, and to free the captive and the debtors, and for the cause of Allah (jihad), and (for) the wayfarers; a duty imposed by Allah. Allah is knower, Wise.” (9 : 60).

Later on, this Sadqa turned into Zaqat and Allah said, “Whatever alms you give shall rebound to your own advantage, provided that you give them for the love of Allah. And whatever alms you give shall be paid back to you in full: you shall not be wronged. As for those needy men who, being wholly preoccupied with fighting for the cause of Allah, cannot travel in land in quest of trading ventures : the ignorant take them for men of wealth on account of their modest behaviour . But you can recognise them by their look - they never importune men for alms. Whatever alms you give are known to Allah. Those who give alms by day and by night, in private and in public, shall be rewarded by their Lord. They have nothing to fear or regret.” (2,272-274)

It is really strange that, Zaqat, which Allah ordained as a compulsory practice for every believer, Muhammad refused to pay it. He used to say, there is no Zaqat for my family and the families of my kin (Muslim: 2340). My humble question is – Was this act of the Prophet justified? The well known proverb says – Charity should begin at home and Muhammad, as he was the prophet to establish Insaaf, should have been the first person to offer Zaqat. But his refusal to pay Zaqat was grossly unfair and by such an act he terribly violated the command of Allah. I therefore ask Zakir Naik to throw light on this misconduct of the Prophet and could he still be called a flawless man?

Question No. 4

Whatever Almighty Allah ordained, He ordained that for the benefit or wellbeing of the human race or in narrower sense, for the benefit of the believers. From this viewpoint it is more than certain that Allah ordained polygamy for the benefit of the believers. Simple commonsense tells us that, it is better if more and more people practice a good thing (like altruism, kindness, forgiveness etc) as much as possible. And there is no doubt that on this ground Allah permitted the Prophet to keep any number of wives he pleased (Koran: 33 :50). My humble question to Zakir Naik is – Why the all knowing and all observing Allah deprived the ordinary believers from practicing that good thing (polygamy) as much as they like by restricting their number of wives only to four?

Question No. 5

In Islam, only the husband possesses the legal right to divorce his wife or wives and if he utters the Arabic word Talaq thrice, the divorce becomes operative at once, irrespective of time and place. It does not matter whether he pronounces Talaq on the point of rage or in an abnormal condition (like drunk). Divorce becomes operative even if the husband utters the word Talaq thrice over telephone or in dream. Present advancement in technology has made the process still easier. Write the word Talaq thrice on a post-card, send it to your wife and divorce will be operative. Recently, nearly a couple of weeks ago, a Malaysian has divorced his two wives within 3 minutes by sending SMS. Now many Muslims are divorcing their wives through e-mail.

In this regard, Mr M Hidayatullah, a former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of India, writes, *As soon as the husband utters the word Talaq thrice, the divorce becomes operative and the marriage gets dissolved from that very moment” (Principles of Mehamedan Law, Tripathy, 1980, p-324). So it is needless to say that Nikah (Marriage) and Talaq (divorce) in Muslim society is like using a toilet paper and throwing it away. Or more pointedly, like dogs’ marriage during their mating season. In this context, it should be pointed out here that Hajrat Hasan, son of Ali and the grand son of the Prophet Muhammad, used to bring new wives through the front door and divorce same number of wives and drive them out of the house through the back door. Many believe that Hasan, in this way, married more than hundred wives. And he never crossed Allah’s limit by keeping more than 4 wives at a time. It is really strange that the Shia Muslims around the world observe the death anniversary of such a man on the day of Muharram.

But a hadith by Abu Daud, narrated by Ibn Umar, says, “Talaq, though made legal, is the most detestable thing to Allah.” Another hadith by Sagir says, “Marry the women but divorce them not, because divorce (is so detestable to Allah that it) trembles Allah’s throne (Arsh).” (These two ahadith have been quoted from Hadis Sharif by Rafiqullah, Haraf Prakashani, Kolkata, 1979, p- 122).

My humble question to Zakir Naik is – Why Allah, Who detests Talaq most, has made Talaq so easy?

At present, I would like to restrain myself with these five questions alone and hope that Dr Naik will come out of his rat-hole to answer my questions.

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Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari is Professor, Department of Applied Physics, University of Calcutta




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'Migrant Thackerays came to Mumbai for jobs'
24 Jun 2008, 1815 hrs IST,PTI




MUMBAI: The Thackerays came to Mumbai two generations ago for jobs and as such have no right to assault those coming to the financial capital in search of livelihood.

This claim has been made in an article published in this month's issue of Nationalist Congress Party's mouthpiece Rashtravadi , whose chief Sharad Pawar is an old friend of Shiv Sena supremo Bal Thackeray.

Hari Narke, professor at Mahatma Phule chair in Pune University and a renowned scholar on Ambedkar, has written the strong-worded article.

Narke has flayed Maharashtra Navnirman Sena Chief Raj Thackeray, who is Bal Thackeray's nephew, over attacks on migrants in Mumbai.

"Raj should read the autobiography of his grandfather Prabodhankar Thackeray (Bal Thackeray's father). Prabodhankar, who studied in Madhya Pradesh, has written how he travelled in other states for livelihood", Narke says.

"This proves that the Thackerays, who are not original inhabitants of Mumbai, came to this city in search of livelihood", the scholar says.

Incidentally, Prabodhankar's literature was published in 1995 by Maharashtra Government at the behest of Narke, the article says.

"Who gave those, who came to Mumbai two generations ago to earn their livelihood, the right to beat up others who also come here in search of jobs?", Narke has questioned.

"It does not behove people who live 24 hours a day seeped in history to forget the history of just over two generations", Narke said.

SECULARISM IN INDIA MEANS HAJ SUBSIDY AND NOW BETHLEHEM SUBSIDY

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Mohan Gupta wrote:

Dignified beggars or looters of Bhaarat and Hindus
No country in the world gives subsidy to Muslims for going to Hajj pilgrimage except Bhaarat. The money given to Muslims for Hajj pilgrimage is a form of Zazia to Hindus. Our prime minister Man Mohan Singh says that Muslims have the first right on the wealth of the Bhaarat nation. In Hindu Bhaarat for a long time a pilgrimage tax was charged from Hindus for going to pilgrimage. Taking cue for subsidy for Hajj pilgrimage purpose, Christian chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh with Hindu name Chander Shekhar has decided to give subsidy to Christians for pilgrimage going to Bethlem.

This is done on the name of secularism. Secularism is supposed to be not to interfere in any religion and not favouring any religion. But in practice secularism in Bhaarat means to be anti Hindu and looting Bhaarat.

Muslims and Christians have been looting Bhaarat for the last 1000 years. First Muslims were looting, and then Christians came to loot Bhaarat. These two communities looted Bhaarat to a very extent.

Hindus were expecting that after independence the loot of Bhaarat and Hindus would stop. But unfortunately for Hindus the administration of Bhaarat went into those leaders who were anti –Hindu. Due to such anti Hindu leaders loot of Hindus in Bhaarat is going on unabated. There are less than 3% Christians in Bhaarat still there are four Christian chief ministers in various states of Bhaarat.

The anti Hindu leaders to provide subsidy and other benefits to minority are looting temples on a great scale. There are very rich temples in Bhaarat. Government has made many such laws by which they are taking away money of Hindu temples to give money to anti secular, ant – Hindu people. No money is touched of mosques and Churches by anti Hindu governments of Bhaarat.

There are many provinces in Bhaarat where Hindus are in minority. But Hindus are not given minority benefit in those states. Kashimiri Pandits are in extremely poor condition in Kashmir state but they get no help from any quarters.

Muslims are Christians may be in minority in Bhaarat but in the world they are in majority and are extremely rich people. There are 57 Muslim countries in the world but there is no Hindu nation in the world. Christianity is the largest religion in the world. The whole of Europe, north and South America are Christian countries.

Muslims and Christians get several hundred thousand billions of dollars from these Muslims and Christian countries for conversion of Hindus in Bhaarat and for the benefit of their community. Still Muslims and Christians are considered minorities in Bhaarat and anti - Hindu leaders still give these communities trillions of dollars in various subsidies and benefits. The time is not far off when Hindus would be in minority in Bhaarat and Christian and Muslims would be majority communities.

To earn some puniya by going to any pilgrimage, people should earn their own money. I wonder what kind of puniya Muslims and Christians would earn by going to pilgrimage after looting Hindus or by taking charities from Hindus. Hindus do not get any charity for going to pilgrimage. The act of getting donations or by looting of Hindu money, Muslims and Christians are behaving as dignified beggars or looters of Hindus.

These are millions of people in Bhaarat who do not get meals even one time during the whole day. All sorts of subsidy to Muslims and Christians must be stopped immediately. Rather than giving subsidy to Muslims for Hajj subsidy and to Christians for going to Belt hem, money should be used for giving food at subsidized rate to poor people irrespective of religion and caste.

Please see the following writing about the subsidy given to Christians and a glimpse how much Christians are getting money from other Christian countries of the world.



Andhra Pradesh: Rules set for Christian yatra

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1213562977&type=NEWS

June 15, 2008
www.crusadewatch.org

(CrusadeWatch note: It is unfortunate that in a state where people cannot even afford square meals a day, the Government headed by a Christian fundamentalist chief minister is misusing people's money to pay each Christian pilgrim to visit Jerusalem. The amount paid to each Christian visitor is enough to feed a poor child for 2 years)
source: Deccan Chronicle, June 15, 2008
Hyderabad, June 14: State government is finalising the guidelines to Holy Land Yatra to Israel for Christians on the lines of Haj Pilgrimage. Only white card holders are to be made eligible under the scheme for which government earlier gave the nod for financial. The Minorities Welfare Department will be soon coming out with the guidelines after consultation with AP Federation of Churches sources said. Christians holding white cards will be given preference on first cum first serve basis and those who are above 50 years will be given financial assistance.

Church authorities and lay groups asked the government to sanction Rs 20,000 to each pilgrim on par with Haj Pilgrims. As per the schedule the pilgrimage covers Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Nazareth, Jordan River, places around dead sea and Sea of Galilee and several other places connected to Christian faith. A group of 50 to 100 pilgrims will be visiting the Holy Land.

"Mainly the tour is for a week and charges would be around Rs 55,000 to Rs 65,000 depending on accommodation and facilities provided by travel agent. It is proposed to limit the period to five days in Israel excluding the travel to reduce the cost to Rs 45,000 in which government will bear Rs 20,000 and the rest will be borne by the pilgrims," Fr T Anthony Raj, Executive Secretary of AP Federation of Churches, said.

The state government already sanctioned Rs 2 crore and at least 1000 pilgrims will be benefited. Advisor to the Government and former South Central Railway, GM Mr T. Stanley Babu, is also part of the team finalising the guidelines.

An official of Minorities Welfare Department said "The pilgrim shall produced SSC certificate which shows that he is a Christian. Even the MRO certificate stating that the person is a bonafide Christian will also be valid. The applicants should possess a valid passport with a minimum validity period of two years at the time of applying." A screening committee with five members including officials from Minority Welfare Department, AP State Minorities Commission, AP Minorities Finance Corporation and representative from the church bodies.



Move to loot 100 crore rupees from Guruvayur Temple's Fixed Deposit
18/06/2008 15:20:58 HK

http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=6543&SKIN=C

Guruvayur: Those who know communists in Kerala have no second thoughts that destruction of Temples in Kerala is one of their important hidden agenda.

After completing the first part of their agenda successfully, that is by Nominating Communist leaders and sympathisers into Devaswoms and Temple committees now they are slowly entering its second phase.

It has been learnt that there is a move to withdraw 100 crore Rupees from the fixed deposit of Guruvayur temple. In this 50 crore will be diverted to water authority department, 35 Crore for Multi Parking System coming in Guruvayur and 15 crore for making annexes for Srrevalsam and Panjajanyam. The palatial guest houses are made for the VIP’s. Such extravaganza is entertained when there are no facilities even for the primary necessities of devotees.

During the term of UDF Government the move to divert 50 lakhs for Water Authority was thwarted following widespread protest from devotees and timely intervention of Hindu organisations.

In the name of GuruvayurTemple there is fixed Deposit of 342 crore Rupees. If 100 crore is withdrawn from it , there will be serious effects on day to day management of Temple as there will be significant reduction in the money temple gets from the interest of fixed deposit.

At present there is a clandestine move to change the provision in Devaswom law, so that Government can easily interfere with Temple income. Once this precedence is started then, within no time the temple coffers will be wiped out by the Atheist Communist’s sitting in the helm.

At present Guruvayur Devaswom spends more than a crore rupee just for the salary of Temple staff, which is much higher than monthly income generated from devotee’s contribution.

It is also learnt that Devaswom Chairman is planning to buy a new luxury car as the present Lancer he is using is outdated! Devaswom Administrator bought a new Ford Fiesta recently dumping the old Hyundai accent – All with the money given to Guruvayoorappan by his devotees

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From: Pastor
With his Believers’ Church Receiving foreign funds worth Rs 1,040 crore for soul harvesting, Yohannan’s dealings have come under scrutiny
Shaju Philip While carrying out its drive against fake godmen and street-side spirituality retailers, investigating agencies in Kerala stumbled on the empire of Kerala-based evangelist and self-consecrated archbishop Dr K.P. Yohannan.

Thiruvananthapuram, June 16:

Last week, Kerala Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan had revealed that Believers’ Church, founded by Yohannan, had received foreign remittances of Rs 1,040 crore in the last 18 years. “The state will seek a probe by a Central agency to look into the foreign funds Yohannan received,” he said.

Yohannan has been a Pentecostal follower and president of Gospel for Asia (GFA), a group set up in the early eighties to promote biblical teachings. Yohannan’s highly spirited preaching won him lakhs of followers across the world. Athmeeya Yathra, one of the dozen trusts Yohannan set up, has been broadcasting religious radio programmes. Yohannan’s GFA has 54 Bible colleges in various countries, where over 8,000 missionaries train to harvest souls for Christ. The GFA Biblical Seminary near Thiruvalla houses students from 31 different evangelical denominations. His GFA had faced the wrath of Hindu organisations several times in the past for forced conversions.

But Yohannan’s real tryst with controversy began after he set up Believers’ Church about eight years ago at Thiruvalla, the NRI town in Pathanamthitta district. It was then that this preacher decided he was cut for higher things in life. He voluntarily donned the garb of a bishop and hired the service of K.J. Samuel, a bishop of a sister church. In normal course, only a priest can become a bishop and his action stunned his community. Both the Church of South India and the Church of North India pulled up their bishops for conducting the installation ceremony, the nature of which had been unprecedented in Christian circles. But Yohannan wouldn’t stop at that. He later upgraded his post to that of an archbishop and appointed six other junior bishops.

“Prayer and money makes Believers’ Church. Yohannan has become an archbishop by bypassing the traditional route,” said Kerala Congress(S) MLA P.C. George.

Archbishop Yohannan now heads over a dozen trusts. A major chunk of Yohannan’s followers are outside his home state, particularly in the northeast. Believers’ Church claims a flock of 15 lakh in India, with Kerala accounting for a mere 15,000. Like other churches, Yohannan’s church also runs a posh school.

Yohannan’s real estate interest came to the fore in 2005 when Believers’ Church purchased 2,263 acres of rubber estate from Harrison Malayalam Limited for Rs 63 crore. He also bought Cheruvally estate, one of the best-managed rubber estates in Kerala. Besides, he has several tracts of land, paddy fields and islands with tourism potential in various parts of central Kerala. The land tracts were purchased on behalf of the trusts Yohannan headed. Nobody was under any illusion that the rubber estate and paddy fields were meant for sowing the seeds of gospel.

Yohannan got into many more controversies, among them over the misuse of a tsunami rehabilitation fund. But political parties have rarely bothered to look into the transactions of the Church.

Despite the police probe and controversies, Yohannan’s team at Thiruvalla remains unfazed. According to Church sources, the self-styled archbishop is engaged in relief activities in the cyclone-hit Myanmar.

“We welcome any kind of investigation. Our accounts are transparent,” said Jacob Pothan, central administrative officer of Believers Church. “It is true that the Church has received Rs 1,040 crore since 1990. But only 144 crore has been diverted for real estate dealings in Kerala. The rest has gone into charity,” said Pothan, who took a voluntary retirement from the Rubber Board to join Yohannan’s spiritual company.

Pothan justified the Church’s real estate investments, saying such projects have to be seen as income-generating ventures .

DGP (Intelligence) Jacob Punoose told The Indian Express that a state-level probe would be held into the funds that Believers’ Church got. “Our investigation has revealed that the church maintains accounts about the money that had flowed into its kitty. However, they have to probe where the money has been deployed,” Punoose said.

Besides, the State Revenue Department has initiated a probe into land dealings by the Church.

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Temple liberation movement
Let HAV (Hindu Aikya Vedi) take the initiative under Sri Kummanam Rajasekharan ji, to liberate our temples from the clutches of the unethical/immoral Govt. Let a Corpus Fund be constituted for the purpose. All Hindus who want to offer money to our 'Ishta Devathas', should pray to the particular Deity and offer it to the Corpus Fund, which is for a very noble Cause, no less religious than dropping it into the 'Bannaram' or 'Hundi'. We must request all devotees not to drop any money into the Bannaram/Hundi, till such time that the temples are freed from the Government control. We must be tenacious in our resolve, and also thwart the looters' efforts to deplete our temple funds.

Agitate until temples are liberated
Hindus should start agitation under the leadership of Shri Kummanam Rajasekharan of HAV until all the temples in Kerala are liberated from the clutches of secular govt. HAV should form an organization/committee comprising members from each and every community (caste - namboothiri to aadivaasi) of Hindu society and make sure temple wealth is used for the benefit of HINDUS ONLY, not for secular purpose. Yes, schools, colleges, hospitals and old age homes for poor Hindus irrespective of his/her caste. Emulate the example of missionaries in this respect. Start agitation right now until victory is achieved.

Take our message to people.
The message of Hindu Aikya Vedi should reach every devotee coming to Guruwayoor and other main temples. Hk and HAK should do something in this regard.Participating in HAK activities is like service to God. We should be able to send this message across our society.

Corruption and communists are two sides of one coin
Nowadays corruption has eaten away whatever ideals left in the communists. After tasting power, they too have gone the way of congressmen. They are atheists too. Communists have found a gold mine in the poor Hindu temples. Otherwise if anybody with an iota of shame or those who day in and day out talk about principles will even think of planting their fellow-travelers in temple administration. They are bereft of any ideals, principles, shame, morals, civilized behaviour. Hence they are to loot and destroy the temples.

It is time Hindus fought and get all the temples liberated from the clutches of these atheists and secular fundamentalists. The temples, especially at the top, can be managed by our elderly, devout, very knowledgeable people from our own religion who have retired from service and want to put in some honorary service in the fag end of their life. Thus we can save a lot of money which we are forced to spend these atheist white elephants. It is time to kick these atheists and white elephants out. Temples are for temple going Hindus.



It seems a rot has been created in Bhaarat by every minister who are engaged in a secular loot of the nation's wealth and resources

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well, well, well

Is That Too Much To Ask?

Sarah's grandson is playing in the water, while she is standing on the beach not wanting to get her feet wet, when all of a sudden a huge wave appears from nowhere and crashes directly over the spot where the boy is in the ocean. The water recedes and the boy is no longer there. He simply vanished.

Sarah holds her hands to the sky and cries, "God, how could you? Have I not been a wonderful mother and grandmother? Have I not given to B’nai Brith and Haddasah? Have I not tried my very best to live a life that you would be proud of?"

Just then, another huge wave appears out of nowhere and crashes on the beach. As the water recedes, the boy is standing there, smiling, splashing around as if nothing had happened.

A loud voice booms from the sky, "I have returned your grandson. Are you satisfied?"

Sarah responds, "Well...he WAS wearing a hat."

BHAKTI BHAKTI RAM NAM

Delusion arises from the duality of attraction and aversion, Arjuna; every creature is deluded by these from birth. But those who have freed themselves from all wrongdoing are firmly established in worship of me. Their actions are pure, and they are free from the delusion caused by the pairs of opposites.

-Bhagavad Gita 7:27-28

JAP RE JAP JAP RAM RAM

Shree Hari:

22nd June, 2008, Sunday
Aashaad Krishna Chaturthi, Vikram Samvat 2065, Ravivar

In Gita 12:2, when Arjuna inquired of Lord Krishna, that of those
devotees who, ever steadfast, worship You (in form, Saguna), and
those who worship the Imperishable, the Unmanifested (formless,
Nirguna), of these two, which one is considered the most perfect in
Yoga? To this God replied -

"In my opinion, those devotees, endowed with supreme faith and ever
steadfast, worship Me (with form and attributes), with mind centered
on Me, are the most perfect in Yoga." (Gita 12:2)

Comments: Even though Knowledge and Devotion are both equally
capable of eradicating man's sorrows, yet the glory of Devotion is
greater than that of Knowledge. With Knowledge one can experience
constant, uninterrupted joy, but with Devotion one can attain
infinite and ever enhancing joy (which increases every moment). Just
like in this world when you first gain the knowledge of a particular
object e.g. "This is money", simply with this knowledge, ignorance of
money will be erased. Similarly, with knowledge of real nature of
things (Tatvajnana), ignorance (lack of knowing) of the nature of
that particular thing is wiped out. When ignorance is removed,
sorrow, fear, and the cycle of birth and death – all end.

Joy derived from knowledge, is savored by the "Self" (swayam).
Devotion is even more extraordinary. In Devotion there is
exceptional joy. The pleasure and joy experienced from devotion and
love, is savored by God Himself. God is not hungry for knowledge,
but He is hungry for love. Therefore love is more extraordinary than
even salvation, or knowledge of true nature of things (tattvajnana),
or experiential knowledge of Self (atmashaakshaatkar) or singleness
of state (kaiwalya).

In knowledge (Jnana yog), a spiritual aspirant by attaching
importance to the discrimination between the real (imperishable, IS)
and the unreal (perishable, Is-Not), renounces the unreal
(perishable). Due to the discrimination between the Real (Is) and
Unreal (is-not), in the path of knowledge, the subtle impressions of
the unreal (the subtle Ego) persist for a long time. This subtle Ego
remains even after salvation. And due to the remaining of this
subtle Ego, even though one is freed from future births, one cannot
experience the Oneness with God. Also mutual philosophical
differences are perceived (because of impression of one's opinion)
and these differences remain for a long time.

In the path of selfless service (karma yog), an aspirant renders
service to others with all that he possesses. Things that are not
of value or importance are renounced easily, but those things that
are valuable and important to the aspirant are not easily renounced.
But when these same things are used for rendering service to others,
the unreal (perishable) is easily and quickly renounced.

In Devotion (bhakti yog) the devotee regards the world as belonging
to God or God's manifestation, and thus the world (unreal,
perishable) is wiped out in his eyes and God remains. Therefore
through selfless service (karma yog), the unreal is more quickly
renounced, than in the path of knowledge (jnana yog), and in path of
devotion (bhakti yog) the unreal (perishable) does not remain at
all - "sadasaccaaham" (Gita 9:19). Therefore Selfless service (karma
yog) is superior to Knowledge of Self (jnana yog) and Devotion
(bhakti yog)is superior to Selfless Service (karma yog).

Thus with the blossoming of love of God, one loses one's identity
and becomes one with God. Hereafter, all philosophical and
ideological differences will end.

From "Gita Prabodhani" in Hindi by Swami Ramsukhdasji.

Ram Ram

HOLES IN THE FENCE

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There once was a little boy who had a bad temper.

His father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.
The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence.
Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down.
He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence.
Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all.
He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.
The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone.
The father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence.
He said, 'You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence.'
The fence will never be the same.
When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one.
You can put a knife in a man and draw it out. It won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound is still there.

' A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one.'






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SHER SINGH AGRAWAL
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IT'S TIME TO TALK HEALTH

Treat knee pain with creams call
Gels or creams containing painkillers are better than tablets for chronic knee pain, NHS research suggests.

A study of almost 600 patients aged over 50 found the anti-inflammatory creams worked as well as the oral versions and had fewer side-effects.

And although they cost more initially, topical treatments may save the NHS money in the long run, the Queen Mary University of London researchers said.

It is estimated that a third of over 50s suffer from knee pain.

In half of those the problem is classed as severe.

The most common cause of pain in the knee is osteoarthritis - a condition caused by abnormal wearing of the cartilage.


This is an important message for GPs and patients - that they should consider topical treatments to avoid side effects
Professor Steve Field, Royal College of GPs

A total of 585 patients from 26 general practices around the UK took part in the study which looked specifically at non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs) - a class of drugs which includes ibuprofen.

Both tablets and creams containing the drugs had the same effect on knee pain, the study showed.

But those treated with oral medication had more minor adverse effects such as indigestion, increased blood pressure, or worsening asthma.

Uncertainty

NSAIDs are well-known to be associated with sometimes serious side effects but the topical preparations deliver a smaller dose directly to the affected area and so are less likely to cause such problems.

Patients also preferred the gels and creams, the study which is published on the National Institute for Health Research website.

Study leader Professor Martin Underwood, who has since moved to Warwick University, said there had been uncertainty about which to use.

"There has been quite a lot of discouragement about using topical NSAIDs because it was thought they were more expensive and there was not good evidence they were beneficial."

He added that patients with more widespread pain may find tablets are better and should discuss the choice with their GP.

Royal College of GPs chairman Professor Steve Field said he had always been of the view that oral NSAIDs worked better.

"This is an important message for GPs and patients - that they should consider topical treatments to avoid side effects."

An Arthritis Research Campaign spokeswoman said GPs had probably under-prescribed topical creams in the past because they did not believe they were as effective.

"But this new research appears to show they both as effective and safer, with fewer of the side affects associated with NSAID tablets," she added.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/7466359.stm

Published: 2008/06/21 01:21:35 GMT

© BBC MMVIII

17 16 yr old getting pregnant through a pact amongst themselves in USA

Dear Rameshji,

Namaskar! I like your comments and at least you had the courge to write your views.

1. As for child marriage in Hinduism and in India, that was the custom in those days and those girls did not get or continue any sort of eduction but went to their in-laws where they were playing gudda gudiya with their husband until they came of age and then assimilated into the house hold chore which was their part in the society!

2. Here the girls are getting into schools for education and learning and many of them fool around. On top of that they have brought themselves into a miserable life for themselves and the offspring and to some extent to their parents for the rest of their presence on this planet corner which is US of A. They don't say for nothing that money is the root cause of all evils! Because these are kids whose parents can afford to send them to school and more.

3. As for the cases of Kunti, Ahlya etc. you mention they were exceptions to the rule and not the common practise which has happened in any society, in the past, now and in the future.

4. But to make a pact at 16 yrs of age for seventeen of those 'kids' to get pregnant and have babies at the same time, no doubt, is the result of this affluent part of the world full of evils for whom there is no guidance or even the parents have no time for their children, etc. etc. Of course America is the leader of the world these days, in most of the areas, and especially the Indian 'modernized' vanar sena will copy it all sooner or later and not vice versa.

5. I wish that all citizens here, if they want some guidance in the right direction, follow the Hindu religion and Buddha's teachings just as they are learning yoga, meditation and nature cure etc.
which may at least put at least some of them on the right path.

Jai Sitaramjiki, Jai Radhakrishnjiiki, Jai Veer Hanuman,

Bhavdiy,

SHER AGRAWAL
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On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Ramesh Jhalla wrote:

20-6-08



Why is teen pregnancy GHOR KALIYUG IF it occurs in the west. Ladies just one generation ago had complete family by the age of 16 years. Child marriage in India was performed when kids were under 3 years and by 12 years girls were dispatched to their inlaws' homes.



AGAIN - REFER TO HINDU SCRIPTURES..KUNTI HAD ILLEGITIMATE KARNA, SHE ALSO HAD 5 KIDS FROM 5 DIFFERENT DIETIES !!!


What about seduction of Ahlya, Ansuya etc ???



The great hulabaloo is about all girls planning to have kids at the same time..so did not 3 wivws of Dasrath conceive at the same time ??? Kunti and Gandhari were also given eggs to conceive at the same time !!! What about mothers of Garuda and Vasuki naag...same story..



Just get off your high horse..these youngsters are just falling prey to peer culture. They should be pitied for lack of parental, pruestly, police and politicians'n guidance.



Western society is in tatters..and kids pay the price.



Ramesh Jhalla

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Subject: [Shakti-L: 2633] IF IT IS NOT KALIYUG THEN IS IT GHOR KALIYUG!
To:
Date: Friday, 20 June, 2008, 3:32 PM


These teens inflicting on themselves a life of suffering and regret!



US fears of teen 'pregnancy pact'

Officials in the US state of Massachusetts are investigating how 17 teenage girls from the same school have become pregnant.

The number is four times as high as the year before at Gloucester High School.

There are reports that some of the girls - none of whom is older than 16 - entered into a pact to have their babies together.

The girls and their families have so far made no comment. Officials are also investigating the ages of the fathers.
Some are believed to be in their twenties and could face the possibility of being charged with having sex with minors.

It is illegal to have sex with anyone younger than 16 in Massachusetts.

Disturbing

Some of the school's own staff believe the sharp increase in the number of pregnancies was no accident.

.

Dr Elizabeth Guthrie, a paediatric psychiatrist at New York's Columbia University, told the BBC that some girls might be viewing pregnancy as a fast-track to adulthood and independence.

"It may give you an opportunity for unconditional love and attention from the baby," she said.

Local teenager Amanda Ireland, a mother who has just graduated from Gloucester High School, offered a blunt warning to other girls.












"Don't try to get pregnant. People say they know what it's like because they have younger siblings, but they really have no idea," she told the BBC.

David Landry, a researcher at the Guttmacher Institute, a New York-based non-profit group focusing on reproductive issues, said the declining teenage pregnancy rate of recent years appeared to be reversing.

Birth rates for girls aged 15 to 17 rose by 3% in 2006, the first increase since 1991, according to preliminary data released in December by the National Center for Health Statistics.

This trend was highlighted on Thursday when Britney Spears' 17-year-old sister Jamie Lynn, star of a popular television show Zoey 101, gave birth to a baby girl, according to People magazine.

But Mr Landry cautioned against attributing the pact or the worrying statistics to Hollywood. Recent hits have included Juno, in which a teenager gets pregnant and decides to have the baby, and Knocked Up, a comedy about a one-night stand.

"The trend emerged before those movies," he said.











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Published: 2008/06/20 10:24:15 GMT

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STORY ON TV ARTIST



It refers to Star-News one-sided TV story on a TV artist’s forced evacuation from her house together with her husband and their only grown-up son in teens when in-laws of the TV artist Leena Prabhu, sold their house to a builder with political background. We have certainly a welcome law now to make children take care of their aged parents. But at same time, how far it is logical that aged in-laws may be allowed to send their daughter-in-law on streets by selling the property to take revenge from usually observed sass-bahu conflict! If aged in-laws had some problem with their daughter-in-law, they should have taken timely police-assistance rather than using politician-builder nexus to take revenge. Case of Leena Prabhu is not an isolated one. There should also be a law so that aged persons may not be able to throw families of their sons on roads under influence of wrong elements.



Star-News channel should not have presented one-sided story against Leena Prabhu perhaps because she played a lead role in a popular TV serial of their competitive group’s fast-emerging channel NDTV-Imagine.



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EK LAKH SUT, SAWA LAKH NATI:.......

ek lakh sut sawa lakh nati;

ravan ke ghar na diya na baati.

(He had one lakh sons and one and a quarter lakh grand sons; and in the house of Ravan there is no diya, no baati; will that time come for this traitor with bastard progeny!)

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For Hindus the greatest disaster that could befall them was Jawahar Lal Nehru. He hated Hindus and wanted to destroy Hindu culture. All the five Education Ministers appointed by him were Muslims. He could never bear the sight of his Hindu Ministers or even the Hindu President. When Rajendra Prasad died he did not even attend the last rites. He demolished Hindu law by bringing in a series of Acts replacing tradition Hindu law of inheritance and marriage etc.- Mitakshara and Dayabhaga. But purposely refrained from touching Muslim law. Unfortunately for Hindus Nehru lived as Prime Minister for eighteen years too long to complete the task of deculturising India and destroying Hinduism. He also acted against Indian nation by gifting Kashmir to Muslims and by allowing China to seize a large area of our territory, by describing the North Eastern region as useless piece of land where nothing grows. He purposely refrained from making Hindi the official language of the entire country. Today the nation is badly divided on the basis of language, regions and castes, thanks to Nehru's conspiracy. If there had been no Patel, Hyderabad would have gone to Pakistan. He was the greatest traitor India has sired.
BK Verma

HINDU Marriage Act breaking homes: SC

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 (New Delhi)
The Supreme Court has voiced serious concerns about the Hindu Marriage Act.

''The act has broken more homes than uniting,'' it said adding that even at the time of marriages divorce petitions are being filed.

It further added that this was having a disastrous effect on children of families with broken homes.

The Hindu Marriage Act, which came into effect in 1955, had undergone several amendments till 2003 and one of its provisions includes divorce - a concept the court said has evolved from the English law.

AIM FOR THE MOON:

Today's Quote

Aim for the moon...even if you miss you'll land amoungst the stars.

-Unknown

NEHRU-GANDHI GATHA - STORY OF LIES AND DECEIT

INTERESTING HISTORY!

At the very beginning of his book, "The Nehru Dynasty", astrologer K.N.Rao mentions the names of Jawaharlal's father and grandfather.

Jawahar Lal's father was believed to be Motilal and Motilal's father was one Gangadhar Nehru.

And we all know that Jawaharlal's only daughter was Indira Priyadarshini Nehru; Kamala Nehru was her mother, who died in Switzerland of tuberculosis.

She was totally against Indira's proposed marriage with Feroze.

Why? No one tells us that!

Now, who is this Feroze?

We are told by many that he was the son of the family grocer.

The grocer supplied wines,etc. to Anand Bhavan (previously known as Ishrat Manzil)

What was the family grocer's name?

One frequently hears that Rajiv Gandhi's grandfather was Pandit Nehru.

But then we all know that everyone has two grandfathers, the paternal and the maternal grandfathers.

In fact, the paternal grandfather is deemed to be the more important grandfather in most societies.








Why is it then, no where, we find Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather's name?

It appears that the reason is simply this. Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather was a Muslim gentleman from the Junagadh area of Gujarat.

This Muslim grocer by the name of Nawab Khan, had married a Parsi woman after converting her to Islam.

This is the source where from the myth of Rajiv being a Parsi was derived.

Rajiv's father Feroze, was Feroze Khan before he married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes.

Feroze's mother's family name was Ghandy, often associated with Parsis and this was changed to Gandhi,sometime before his wedding with Indira, by an affidavit.



The fact of the matter is that (and this fact can be found in many writings) Indira was very lonely. Chased out of the Shantiniketan University by Guru Dev Rabindranath himself for misdemeanor, the lonely girl was all by herself,

while father Jawahar was busy with politics, pretty women and illicit sex;

the mother was in hospital.

Feroze Khan, the grocer's son was then in England and he was quite sympathetic to Indira and soon enough she changed her religion, became a Muslim woman and married Feroze Khan in a London mosque.







Nehru was not happy; Kamala was dead already or dying. The news of this marriage eventually reached Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (better known as Mahatma Gandhi).

Gandhi urgently called Nehru and practically ordered him to ask the young man to change his name from Khan to Gandhi. It had nothing to do with change of religion, from Islam to Hinduism for instance.

It was just a case of a change of name by an affidavit. And so Feroze Khan became Feroze Gandhi.

The surprising thing is that the apostle of truth, the old man soon to be declared India's Mahatma and the 'Father of the Nation' didn't mention this game of his in the famous book, 'My Experiments with Truth'. Why?

When they returned to India, amock 'Vedic marriage' was instituted for public consumption.

On this subject,writes M.O. Mathai (a longtime Private Secretary of Nehru) in his renowned (but now suppressed by the GOI! ) 'Reminiscences of the Nehru Age' on page94, second paragraph: "For some inexplicable reason, Nehru allowed the marriage to be performed according to Vedic rites in 1942. An inter-religious and inter-caste marriage under Vedic rites at that time was not valid in law. To be legal, it had to be a civil marriage."








It's a known fact that after Rajiv's birth Indira and Feroze lived separately, but they were not divorced.


Feroze used to harass Nehru frequently for money and also interfere in Nehru's political activities. Nehru got fed up and left instructions not to allow him into the Prime Minister's residence Trimurthi Bhavan.

Mathai writes that the death of Feroze came as a relief to Nehru and Indira. The death of Feroze in 1960 before he could consolidate his own political forces, is itself a mystery. Feroze had even planned to remarry.

Those who try to keep tabs on our leaders in spite of all the suppressions and deliberate misinformation, are aware of the fact that the second son of Indira (or Mrs.Feroze Khan) known as Sanjay Gandhi was not the son of Feroze.

He was the son of another Muslim gentleman, Mohammad Yunus.



Here, in passing, we might mention that the second son was originally named Sanjiv. It rhymed with Rajiv, the elder brother's name.

It was changed to Sanjay when he was arrested by the British police in England and his passport impounded, for having stolen a car.

Krishna Menon was then India's High Commissioner in London. He offered to issue another passport to the felon who changed his name to Sanjay.







Incidentally, Sanjay's marriage with the Sikh girl Menaka (now they call her Maneka for Indira Gandhi found the name of mythological Lord Indra's Court dancer rather offensive !!) took place quite surprisingly in Mohammad Yunus's house in New Delhi.


And the marriage with Menaka who was a model (She had model for Bombay Dyeing wearing just a towel) was not so ordinary either.

Sanjay was notorious in getting unwed young women pregnant. Menaka too was rendered pregnant by Sanjay.


It was then that her father,Colonel Anand, threatened Sanjay with dire consequences if he did not marry her daughter. And that did the trick.

Sanjay married Menaka. It was widely reported in Delhi at the time that Mohammad Yunus was unhappy at the marriage of Sanjay with Menaka.

Apparently he had wanted to get him married with a Muslim girl of his choice.


It was Mohammad Yunus who cried the most when Sanjay died in the plane accident.








In Yunus's book, 'Persons, Passions & Politics' one discovers that baby Sanjay had been circumcised following Islamic custom, although the reason stated was phimosis.


It was always believed that Sanjay used to blackmail Indira Gandhi and due to this she used to turn a blind eye when Sanjay Gandhi started to run the country as though it were his personal freedom.


Was he black mailing her with the secret of who his real father was?


When the news of Sanjay's death reached Indira Gandhi, the first thing she wanted to know was about the bunch of keys which Sanjay had with him.









Nehru was no less a player in producing bastards.


At least one case is very graphically described by M.O. Mathai in his "Reminiscences of the NehruAge", page 206.


Mathai writes:

"In the autumn of 1948 a young woman from Benares arrived in New Delhi as a sanyasini named Shraddha Mata (an assumed and not a real name). She was a Sanskrit scholar well versed in the ancient Indian scriptures and mythology. People, including MPs, thronged to her to hear her discourses. One day S.D. Upadhyaya, Nehru's old employee, brought a letter in Hindi from Shraddha Mata. Nehru gave her an interview in the PM's house. As she departed, I noticed (Mathai is speaking here) that she was young, shapely and beautiful. Meetings of Nehru with her became rather frequent, mostly after he finished his work at night. During one of Nehru's visits to Lucknow, Shraddha Mata turned up there and Upadhyaya brought a letter from her as usual. Nehru sent her the reply and she visited Nehru at midnight...“


Suddenly Shraddha Mata disappeared.








In November 1949 a convent in Bangalore sent a decent looking person to Delhi with a bundle of letters. He said that a young woman from northern India arrived at the convent a few months ago and gave birth to a baby boy. She refused to divulge her name or give any particulars about herself.


She left the convent as soon as she was well enough to move out but left the child behind.


She however forgot to take with her a small cloth bundle in which, among other things, several letters in Hindi were found. The Mother Superior, who was a foreigner, had the letters examined and was told they were from the Prime Minister.


The person who brought the letters surrendered them..."I (Mathai) made discreet inquiries repeatedly about the boy but failed to get a clue about his hereabouts. Convents in such matters are extremely tightlipped and secretive.


Had I succeeded in locating the boy, I would have adopted him. He must have grown up as a Catholic Christian blissfully ignorant of who his father was."







Coming back to Rajiv Gandhi,

we all know now that he changed his so called Parsi religion to become a Catholic to marry Sania Maino of Turin, Italy.


Rajiv became Roberto.

His daughter's name is Bianca and son's name is Raul.


Quite cleverly the same names are presented to the people of India as Priyanka and Rahul.



What is amazing is the extent of our people's ignorance in such matters.



The press conference that Rajiv Gandhi gave in London after taking over as Prime minister of India was very informative. In this press conference, Rajiv boasted that he was NOT a Hindu but a Parsi.


Mind you, speaking of the Parsi religion, he had no Parsi ancestor at all.

His grandmother (father's mother) had turned Muslim after having abandoned the Parsi religion to marry Nawab Khan.








It is the western press that waged a blitz of misinformation on behalf of Rajiv. From the New York Times to the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post, the big guns raised Rajiv to heaven.

The children's encyclopedias recorded that Rajiv was a qualified Mechanical Engineer from the revered University of Cambridge. No doubt US kids are among the most misinformed in the world today!


The reality is that in all three years of his tenure at that University Rajiv had not passed a single exam. He had therefore to leave Cambridge without a certificate.

Sonia too had the same benevolent treatment. She was stated to be a student in Cambridge. Such a description is calculated to mislead Indians. She was a student in Cambridge all right, but not of the University of Cambridge , but of one of those fly by night language schools where foreign students come to learn English. Sonia was working as an 'au pair' girl in Cambridge and trying to learn English at the same time.


And surprise of surprises, Rajiv was even cremated as per Vedic rites in full view of India's public.








This is the Nehru dynasty that India worships and now a foreigner leads a prestigious national party because of just one qualification being married into the Nehru family.

Maneka Gandhi, though Indian, herself is being accepted by the non-Congress parties not because she was a former model or an animal lover, but for her links to the Nehru family.

Saying that an Italian (or any foreigner) should not lead India will amount to narrow mindedness, but if Sania Maino (now Sonia) had served India like, say, Mother Teresa or Annie Besant, i.e. in anyway on her own rights, then all Indians should be proud of her just as how proud we are of Mother Teresa.

OR

Saying that any other party which comes to rule India is better is again equally worse.


The point is Indians who nominate the people to stand in these elections; and the people who vote their rulers (i.e. the authorities) must know that truth eventually come out some day.


Dont allow the famous land of India (our motherland) to be looked down by others.








Spare a moment and check the background of each nominee.


A good-well nourished tree

always

bear good fruit.


You are responsible too.

QUESTIONS CONCERNING WHO CAN BUILD A TEMPLE AND

if a hierarchy as in the case of churches exists in the Hindu temples and if there is an authority like Pope etc.

I would try to answser these questions according to the best of my knowledge, which is very limited; however with my large experience and exposure to the Hindu religion, my answers are as follows:-

1. Any one who has enough shraddha or BHAKTI BHAO for God, to find God and to realize him will only get involved in making a temple. Anyone having these qualities can make a temple.

2. Hindu dharm is a SANATAN DHARM; no one knows when it started; it has most probably existed as long as humanity has existed or maybe a little later than that but it is one of the original religions on this earth practised by the human beings, mostly by Hindus.

3. There is no authority as pope in Christianity or hierarchy as such in Hinduism. The authority for the Hindu religion and practises emanates from Hindu shashtras, Vedas, Bhagwad Gita and innumerable other religious scriptures, most of whom came from God himself through our reverred saints, who are born from time to time and some of whom are with us even today.

4. There are some sankaracharyas who have authority in their own temples, ashrams, math or in their respective regions. However, it is not easy to separate the grain from the husk, i.e. to know who is the real saint or who is not, even though one may call himself as God or with another name.

5. Practise of hinduism requires strict practises to be followed which not many of the people can do even though they may make big claims of being God or whatever.

6. For the training of the pujaris, these pujaris must have a very good knowoledge of the Vedas and our shastras and must have been trained in a temple for several years from their young age whose practises and ceremonies they will follow, whether from North or South of India or West or East.

7. But the basic tenets or qualifications for all the pundits are the same: they must be truly interested in God, their behaviour and character must be impeccable, they should be prepared to live in poverty, with their minimum needs met and be satisfied, etc. etc. They should not be greedy and must be above sensuality or such.

8. Bhagwan Ram, Bhagwan Krishn, Bhagwan Buddh, Guru Nanak, just to name a few, who came as incarnation of God or humans, are some of the exemplary Gods/saints who graced the earth to show the world the true path to God.

9. The ultimate aim of a human soul, which is covered by a shell of body and mind, etc., is to go back and immerse into God from which it started as an 'anshi' and to get out of the cycle of chaurasi lakh yonis in which each one of us keeps wandering aimlessly, the end of which comes to 'nothing'.

10. In connection with the foregoing, I would like to take the opportunity to emphasize that the pandits who work in USA and Europe etc. must dress properly and cover their upper part of the body and leave behind the practise of naked body in India not to bring disgrace to the Hindu religious practises. Jaisa desh vaisha bhesh.

11. The following stories may also clarify the basis of the Hindu religion somewhat:

12. You must have heard the name of Sri Ramkrishn Param Hans who was the pujari in the Devi mandir near Calcutta on the banks of the river ganges there. From time to time, several wandering mendicants used to come to the temple and after a stay of a day or several days, they used to depart. One such sadhu came to the temple and after finishing his morning routine, he used to sit down and read from a very thick book all day. He only stopped reading from the book for eating a frugal lunch and then continued reading it until he went to bed. So people became quite curious that he must have a very good granth and wanted to know the contents of it. After several days they approached him and requested that if they could see the granth as to what it contained. When they saw the book, on each and every page was written RAM RAM RAM RAM and that's all. People were very surprised and asked the sadhu it only had RAM NAM and nothing else. The sadhu said what else is there in the Dharm; it is only RAM NAM and the rest is commentary.

I will continue the next two stories in the next email.

Yours comments and further additions to the above about Hindu dharm and Pujaris would be highly appreciated.

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The Supreme Court has voiced serious concerns about the Hindu Marriage Act.

''The act has broken more homes than uniting,'' it said adding that even at the time of marriages divorce petitions are being filed.

It further added that this was having a disastrous effect on children of families with broken homes.

The Hindu Marriage Act, which came into effect in 1955, had undergone several amendments till 2003 and one of its provisions includes divorce - a concept the court said has evolved from the English law.

samhita hindu camp attacked by 6000 strong moslem mob in India

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FRIENDS OF HINDU SAMHATI
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FWD...

June 13, 2008



The Friends of Hindu Samhati, USA unequivocally condemns today's gruesome attack on the Hindu Samhati training camp at Ganga Sagar (West Bengal) by a murderous mob of local Muslims, at least 6000-7000 strong, starting Thursday (June 12, 2008).



Ganga Sagar is a very reknowned Hindu Tirtha Kshetra (Place of Pilgrimage) where the sacred Ganga River has a confluence with the Bay of Bengal. Ganga Sagar is located on the western edge of the Sunderban Delta on Sagar Island. At the edge of Sagar town - adjacent to the beach - is the ancient temple dedicated to Kapil Muni, the sage responsible for initiating the chain of events that ultimately resulted in Mother Ganga descending to the earth from heaven and giving mankind an opportunity to wash away its sins in her pure water. The earliest mention of this sacred place is found in the Mahabharata where a learned sage explains to Bhishma the significance of taking a dip at the confluence of Ganga Sagar. Millions of Hindu pilgrims visit this holy place all year round to take a dip in the holy Ganges, particularly during the Kumbha Mela and Makara Sankranti festivities.



Since this morning (Thursday, 12 June, 2008), Hindu Samhati had started conducting a training camp and workshop on the current socio-political scenario to 180 men, women and children in the peaceful and serene surroundings of Ganga Sagar.



Sri Tapan Kumar Ghosh, the National Convenor of Hindu Samhati is conducting the main sessions of this camp. Other eminent people and local notables are also present. Everything went on smoothly until this evening, when suddenly the camp building was surrounded by a murderous mob of about 6000-7000 local Muslims bent on mayhem. The Muslim attackers were well-prepared and have been throwing gas cylinders and petrol bombs (molotov cocktails) and kept on attacking incessantly for a few hours, to incinerate the whole camp. The entire camp building has been reduced to ashes. All 180 of our camp attendees (a large number of them women and children) and 15 policemen are trapped inside this burning camp along with our dear leader Sri Tapan Kumar Ghosh.



Already 14-15 attendees of the camp have been injured in the carnage, and at least 7 of them are in very critical condition and are not expected to survive. The names of the critically wounded include: Subodh Kundu, Bivas Mondal, Gopinath Biswas, Prasenjit Sardar and Gautam Halder, apart from 2 others that could not be identified because of serious facial burn injuries.



Nine camp attendees are still missing and may have been kidnapped by the Muslim mob. Their names are: Gautam Mondal, Kartick Biswas, Ram Shil, Palash Roy, Gopal Dolui, Piyush Senapati, Ashok Das, Shankar Nandi and Subhash Roy. We are very apprehensive about their well being.


The local police-station (Thana) has unfortunately sent in a small posse of 15 policemen who are totally inadequate for resisting such a huge Jehadi mob armed to the teeth. The police could not control the mob of Muslims even after firing several rounds.

As of Friday morning (June 13, 2008), as per the recent information received by us, the assault by the Muslim mob at Hindu Samhati campsite in Gangasagar is still on, although the intensity has abated a little bit. Some more police force has reached the trouble spot, though the large force required to subdue a mob of this size and temperament is nowhere in sight. A recent update by phone from the camp is that along with the 14-15 attendees who were injured, 2 policemen have also been seriously injured due to the assault by the Muslim mob. Scores of other attendees to the camp has sustained minor injuries in this most cowardly assault including the National Convener of Hindu Samhati, Sri Tapan Kumar Ghosh. Thankfully his injuries are not serious.

Apart from throwing petrol bombs to incinerate the camp building, the Muslim mob also tried to breach the wall by exploding cooking gas cylinders against it. Failing to break into the camp, the rampaging Muslim mob has attacked and seriously damaged some nearby houses of the local Hindus. They have also seriously damaged and set fire to an adjoining Kali temple and a 'Yatri Nivas' (Travellers' Lodge) run by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad. The fireball attacks have slightly abated but the vicious threats and stone pelting continues – all attuned to the collective chants of both 'naara-e-takbir, allahu akbar' (allah is the Greatest) and 'inquilab zindabad' (Long Live the Revolution).

Sagar island at the Ganga Sagar – the confluence of the Ganga and the Bay of Bengal – is one of the holiest pilgrimages of India, where millions of Hindus from all over India and the world gather during the 'Makar Sankranti' (Winter Solstice) for the 'Punya Snan' (Holy Bath) every year. If a peaceful Hindu gathering can be assaulted with such viciousness and impunity in one of the most sacred Hindu sites of pilgrimage, one shudders to think what lies in store for the Hindus of West Bengal a few years hence.



In a travesty of justice, instead of arresting the attackers, the Police in West Bengal have slapped a non-bailable arrest warrant against Sri Tapan Kumar Ghosh and 15 Hindu Samhati activists. The concocted charges against them are listed as being: "Incitement and Instigation for Rioting" and "Disruption of Communal Harmony".



As per the latest news received from the ground, Sri Tapan Kumar Ghosh and 15 Hindu Samhati activists have been framed and arrested for inciting communal disharmony by Kakdwip Thana (Police Station) in West Bengal.



1) The Friends of Hindu Samhati, USA strongly protests this outrageous attack on a peaceful, indoor religious function that was held behind closed doors. There was no provocation for this vicious assault nor was any outdoor procession held at the location. It is pitiable that the police could not provide security to its peace loving citizens and is instead insisting on closing the camp down.



2) We strongly urge the police and the local administration to arrest all the perpetrators of this heinous crime immediately and provide security to continue the camp at a nearby, alternate location.



3) We deeply deplore the travesty of justice in West Bengal and appeal to the police and the local administration to remove the framed charges and release Sri Tapan Kumar Ghosh and 15 Hindu Samhati activists immediately.



4) We request all friends and readers in India and abroad to call up the Indian administration to inquire about this incident. At least, they will know that people still care about justice and peace in India. The Numbers to Call are:

a) District Magistrate, South 24 Parganas
Phone: 033-24793713
Email: dm-ali@wb.nic.in

b) Mr. Praveen Kumar

District Superintendent of Police, South 24 Parganas, West Bengal

Mobile Phone: 91-98300-23142



c) Ganga Sagar Police-Station/Thana

Officer in Charge

Phone: 91-3210-240-205



d) Mr. Tomal Das

Officer in Charge

Kakdwip Thana (Police Station)
Mobile Phone: 98305-99612

e) Sub-Divisional Police Officer--Senior to Officer in Charge
Phone: 94349-66000

5) Finally, please show your solidarity with the beleaguered Hindus of West Bengal, and spread the news of this heinous outrage among your friends, co-workers and family


NO REPORT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN ANY OF THE INDIAN NEWSPAPERS ABOUT THIS INCIDENT!




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SHER SINGH AGRAWAL
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