Tuesday, December 28, 2010


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Reply |bhagavaandaas tyaagi to Avnish, Undisclosed-Re., gen_malik
show details 8:11 AM (1 hour ago)

1 . Australian Prime Minister is 100 % right and I agree with him 100 % but 200 years ago these white people took Australia from native people of Australia and decimated them as they did with Canadian natives, American natives and in many more countries which they should not have done but they should have lived in harmony with the native people ----
2 . All non Muslim countries must unite to fight Muslims the cancer of human race ----

From: Avnish Kashyap
To: Undisclosed-Recipient@yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, December 28, 2010 8:35:46 PM
Subject: Fw: Fw: Fwd: FW: Cheers!!! Australia says NO, again

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Cheers!!! Australia says NO, again

A very rational and sensible declaration.

Australian Prime Minister does it again!!
This woman should be appointed Queen of the World.. Truer words have never been spoken.

It took a lot of courage for this woman to speak what she had to say for the world to hear. The retribution could be phenomenal, but at least she was willing to take a stand on her and Australia 's beliefs.
The whole world needs a leader like this!

Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..

Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians (but not me) believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves in NEW ZEALAND we will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

Friday, December 24, 2010



FW: "Maya Jaal" in Vedas:

Prem Sabhlok Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:42 AM

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shafiq Ahmed
Date: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Subject: "Maya Jaal" in Vedas:
To: Prem Kumar Sabhlok

Dear All:

While going through this forward, we find 96% similarity between teachings of Islam & Vedas: Its a good undertaking Premji. Let common people understand & try to put into practice, the truth . Surely conflicts in the society shall diminish.


Through the vehement effect of Cosmic Delusion MAYA we are chained to Destiny.
......Why did Max Muller choose to speak in Sanskrit? Addressing the
audience he said, "Vedas are the oldest text of the human
race. And Agni Meele Purohitam is the first verse of Rig Veda. In
the most primordial time when the people of Europe were jumping
like Chimpanzees, from tree to tree and branch to branch, when they
did not know how to cover their bodies, but with fig leaves, did
not know agriculture and lived by hunting and lived in caves, at
that remote past, Indians had attained high civilization and they gave
to the world universal philosophies in the form of the Vedas.* (Edison recorded the voice of Max Muller in the first HMV gramophone record.)

Vedic metaphysics is the perennial philosophy that is at the core of all religions - a precious gift for which the West is ever indebted to the East. (Francois Voltaire).
Become part of divine Bureaucracy of the Supreme Reality Brahman and save the Grand wondrous Design of Viswakarma –the only Supreme Reality- Wise men describe THEE with various names.
Dear Seekers of Vedic knowledge,
Subject: MAYA (Cosmic Delusion)
For appreciating the divine concept of Vedic Maya, a few references are given below.
Rig Veda 1-131-1 and 6-47-18 describe the universe as His Creative Art (mayabhi) and for every form He is the Model. All the riches, matter, clouds, Sun and other objects belong to Him. Svetasvatra Upanishad (4 -9 and10) describes Brahma as the Illusion Maker and Prakrti as Maya. Being Shakti energy (cosmic power) of God, Maya hinders the truth to the human senses, which tend to even misrepresent the reality.
According to Mundakya Upanishad 3-2-9, after the illusory effect of Maya vanishes, you become Brahma. "so ye ha vaitatparaman Brahma Veda, Brahmaiva Bhavati" (when you start knowing Brahma, you become Brahma.
The human form of Indra Deva is an illusion R.V 6-47-18 says, "Indra Mayabhi"- the illusory Indra. According to Sama Veda 1710, HE shines as supreme Lord in all the worlds as part of his cosmic Lila (Play) described as Maya. He is the first cause of all these worlds visible to senses and beyond.
The effect of Maya in our sense perception of truth is given in Yajur Veda 40-15 to 17 where it says," the face of truth is covered by golden lid." Unless the golden lid of Maya, which forms its veil, is removed, one cannot find the truth of Reality. Maya creates this golden disc and hides the God. It is for this very reason same truth is described and understood differently by different people.
Rig- Veda 7-33-3 also attributes Maya in Prakrti. Bhagavad-Gita has some verses relating to Maya, particularly (7- 4, 5, 13, 14, 25, 27), (4- 9, 10), (3- 27, 39, 40).
Soul (Atma)- the omniscient principle is provided to human beings so that they could get out of the vehement effect of MAYA and their past and present good or bad karma(actions) due to the predominance of their gunas (sattavic,rajasic and tamasic). Those who do not allow the unmoved mover soul to administer their gross bodies, do not follow Rta (cosmic laws) and do not serve the purpose of their human birth, are born again and again as the vehement effect of Maya continues.
It is thus apparent that “Maya” creates attachment to children, matter, money, gold etc. Vedic metaphysics clearly mentions that all material things belong to God and these are given to us for minimum use as need based and not greed based. It is Maya that is the cause of insatiable desire and thus deludes the human beings (B.G.3-39, 40). Thus due to its cosmic illusion we are chained to Destiny.
The knowledge of the doctrine of Maya can save this beautiful divine globe and world of senses.
For bringing the Golden Age or the "Kingdom of Heaven" nearer to the earth, the knowledge of Maya would greatly help. The firm belief in its vehement effect can reverse the present trends based on abject materialism.
Those individuals who understand the effect of Maya all these modern gods, gurus, cults disappear and firm belief in One God and One life becomes dominant. They all find we are part of the same life of formless God who is our supreme Father. We live in Him as cells of His life, which take birth, grow and die and are reborn. It is more like our gross body that has trillions of living cells that are always there but live only for a few hours to a few days and are reborn.
Vedas thus advise that the highest and ideal living is by avoiding illusory smartness i.e. false ego, snobbishness, artificial life of glamour and ostentation. The blind pursuit of money, matter and prestige, power and status are not the requirements of your real extended self (Jivatma) but illusory requirements of your senses that run after even tiny matter.
Our intellectual arguments, empirical knowledge and sense experience have created a strange world of contrasts and confusion, one God to multiplicity of gods, extreme idealism to dreaded materialism. Today we find people have hardly any common views on any subject and this has become cause of conflict between nations, societies, families and even friends.
Vedic Metaphysics tell us it is due to the mystic power (shakti) of the divine Nature described in Vedas as MAYA, it acts as a huge Cosmic Saw. Multiplicity, lust, greed, pride, hatred, jealousy, egoism and self-interest are its sharp teeth. Below and between its teeth are love, cooperation, humility, purity and truth. Those in pursuit of money, matter in any of its form and other mundane activities are very often caught in the teeth of Saw. They first start losing the divine instruments like buddhi (intellect) of their inner world and finally the instruments of their outer world like sense organs and finally their gross bodies as well.
According to Bhagavad-Gita God being merciful and benevolent gives long rope to individuals to develop the divine qualities hidden in them and known to their immortal soul. Otherwise, the individuals being their own greatest enemies grow in wickedness and sink deeper into sin and finally get shameful punishment.
Those individuals who start developing divine qualities known to their immortal extended "self” with selfless service to weaker members of society and resist from aimless pursuit of money and matter, smoothly pass through or below the cosmic Saw of Maya. Such persons tend to merge with Brahma -the formless and ineffable God through right knowledge contained in Vedas. Those who acquire this knowledge and put into practice get beyond the effect of the Saw of Maya.
Since Brahma is beyond this veil of cosmic illusion, the true seekers of Him tear off this veil with para jnan (higher knowledge) and also get beyond the illusory effect of Maya. These individuals come to know that nothing is produced out of nothing. So, God being eternal is Himself the universe and universe is God." A sateh saj jayete kutos" i.e. How can entity be produced out of non-entity?
Maya is a practical philosophy of ending human sufferings. In any society when Knowledge of Maya starts disappearing diversity in thoughts actions increases. Human mind becomes devils workshop, even rudderless, and can lead to spread of atheism, materialism, anti social elements increase. All actions to make world free from pollution and Unity in Diversity become an act of hypocrisy to collect more funds.
HUMAN Nature of believers in Maya is Positive- love, harmony, cooperation … (Plato, Sankracharya etc) and non believers is negative i.e. man is ungrateful, deceitful, cowardly, avaricious and fickle (Hobbes, Machiavelli). Knowledge of Maya leads to Kingdom of Heaven near the earth, Universal brother hood, global family, Ramarajya, One God etc

For more details in regard to Vedic Maya, kindly read chapter 6 (six) of Glimpses of Vedic Metaphysics for on line reading and even taking print at no cost. Website is http://wwww.sabhlokcity.com/metaphysics/ The book is also accessible through Search Engines of Google.com, yahoo.com and Lulu.com. Please render divine and noble service and forward it other seekers of Vedic knowledge known to you.

With regards,
Prem Sabhlok


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Monday, December 20, 2010

Cesar's wife...

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New Delhi BJP today dismissed Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's offer to appear before the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) saying this panel has a limited mandate and that a JPC was required for answering questions even about the formation of the government.

BJP leader Arun Jaitley told reporters that the PM breaking his silence on the 2G spectrum scam was welcome but he cannot choose the forum of his "inquiry".

"The Prime Minister said I have nothing to hide and Caesar's wife should be above suspicion. Caesar's wife never chose the forum of her own inquiry but he has chosen the forum also by saying that he was ready to appear before the PAC," Jaitley contended.

The reaction came after the Prime Minister said he had nothing to hide and was ready to appear before the PAC as the Caesar's wife should always be above suspicion.

On Singh's assertion that he had nothing to hide, Jaitley said, "When he says that, then we would say that there are many things which are still hidden."

The BJP leader said the Government will have to answer many questions like "How was this Government formed, who chose the party which will get the Telecom portfolio and which individual would get the portfolio from that party, who had done that. Was there a role played by the industrial houses and the lobbyists?"

Jaitley said the mandate of PAC is limited as it can only give para-wise comments on the CAG report, which is the internal auditor of the Government of India whereas the issue of 2G spectrum allocation to be probed was "purely political".

"In the last seven years, who buried the Bofors issue, who appointed a tainted person as CVC, who is said to be the Prime Minister's individual choice... we request him that he should answer all these things. This issue can't be dealt by a committee looking into audit reports but only by the Parliament or a JPC formed by it," he said.

On the 2G spectrum issue, he said the government must answer questions as to how a tainted minister was allowed to continue for three years after the reports of the scam came in 2007 and why action was not taken against him.

"All these questions can't be answered before a committee looking into auditor's report. This has be done before that Parliament of India or a JPC appointed by it," Jaitley said.

Welcoming the fact that the PM had “broken his silence" on the 2G spectrum issue, Jaitley said the BJP would request him not to choose the forum for doing so.

"If he believes that he or his government has not done anything wrong, then why is he getting into this PAC vs JPC debate. JPC is a Parliamentary committee and it is its mandate to probe. He should appear before the JPC and the government should give a mandate to the JPC and it should agree for it," he added.

Jaitley said that while inducting seven "tainted" ministers in his Cabinet in 2004, Singh had maintained they were to be presumed not guilty till their guilt was proven. "At that time Manmohan Singh had not said Caesar's wife should be above suspicion," he said.

Claiming that Congress was suffering from "BJP-phobia" and appeared to be on the backfoot, Jaitley said, "A strange situation has emerged as instead of talking about their achievements in the meeting to mark the party's 125 years, they are talking about the BJP."

Caesar's wife didn't determine who should probe her: BJP - Express India

Caesar's wife didn't determine who should probe her: BJP - Express India

Saturday, December 04, 2010

Dr Subramaniam Swamy's explosive letter to the PM


Fw: Subramaniam Swami's Explosive letter to Indian PrimeMinister.

Bharat J. Gajjar Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: Atul Dave
To: undisclosed recipients
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:12 PM
Subject: Fw: Subramaniam Swami's Explosive letter to Indian PrimeMinister.

--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Pratap A. wrote:

From: Pratap A.
Subject: Subramaniam Swami's Explosive letter to Indian PrimeMinister.
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 10:04 PM

Scary stuff indeed, if facts contained are true!! Not sure if authentic. Hope the Wikileaks exposure carries something on this.

Swamy's explosive letter to PM
25/11/2010 15:18:05

November 24, 2010.
Dr. Manmohan Singh,
Prime Minister of India,
South Block,
New Delhi.

Dear Prime Minister:

You may by now have realized that the 2G Spectrum scandal is not only bad for the country in the dimension of corruption, but now it emerges that there is a national security dimension too. The RAW, IB, CBI, ED all have enough material which they may have placed before you regarding the dubious aspects of the principal player in this scam.

According to my information two sisters, Anushka and Nadia, of Ms Sonia Gandhi had received sixty percent of the kickbacks in this deal i.e. Rs.18,000 crores each. The frequent travel of Sonia Gandhi and her immediate family to Malaysia, Hongkong, Dubai and parts of Europe including London requires to be probed under the law. What requires your special attention is the mode of the travel, not by commercial airliners, but by jets provided by the corporate sector which itself is illegal under the DGCA Rules. I find that often Ms. Sonia Gandhi and family have traveled to Dubai and then traveled onwards on private jets provided by dubious Arab business interests to Europe. It is not clear on what passport they have traveled. In Dubai they were felicitated by agencies of countries which are hostile to India including that of Pakistan.

You can no more not take a stand when evil is permeating in the country in the form of terrorism, religious conversion and demographic infiltration. The ill-gotten money in billions of dollars equivalent, the money laundering and Participatory Notes have all undermined our national integrity. The time is come for you to take a stand.

I am familiar with the information and data with our intelligent agencies. I also know that you can seek cooperation of other countries especially the United States in pooling information especially from inter Intelligence interaction that take place regularly. I hope therefore you will rise to the need of the hour and take effective steps to set right the sorry state of affairs in the country caused by overtly and covertly resident foreigners. In this connection I would like to meet you at the earliest. My Secretary will be in touch with your Secretariat to fix a time.

Yours sincerely,


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