Wednesday, April 07, 2010



[sadhaka] Immortality is Self-Evident (Apr 7, 2010)

sadhak_insight Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:36 PM

|| Shree Hari ||
Ram Ram

7th April 2010, Wednesday, Vaishaka Krishna Ashthami, Budhvar
Vikram Samvat 2067, Sri Krishna Samvaat 5236

Immortality is Self-Evident

Man has within him innate knowledge (discrimination). A spiritual aspirant is to give importance to this knowledge (discrimination). That discrimination is not created. If it was created, then it would also perish, because all the things that are born will perish - this is a rule. Therefore discrimination (vivek) is not created, it is awakened. When a sadhak gives importance to that discrimination that is ever present, then that discrimination is awakened. This is called "tattvagyaan" or "enlightenment."

In all men there is a natural sentiment within that I may continue to live, that I may never die. We want to remain eternal. This desire for immortality indicates that as such he is already immortal. If he were not immortal, he would not desire immortality. Just like when one feels hungry and thirsty then from that it is proven that there is such a thing as food to satisfy hunger and water to quench thirst. Therefore Immortality is self-evident. Here a doubt arises, that when a being is already immortal, then why does he desire immortality?

The explanation for this doubt is that when we neglect or do not pay attention to our discrimination, then we assume identity with the perishable body i.e. assume "I am the body", therefore the desire for immortality and the fear of death arise. This fear arises in spite of the discrimination within, knowing full well that the body is not the real self, and that the body constantly changes from childhood to now, and the Self is unchanged.

The Self is clearly separate from the physical body, i.e. "I am not the body" This is the experience of all human beings, yet we continue to neglect this experience. This is a disgrace to one's discrimination. A spiritual aspirant must give importance to his own discriminating abilities. The change occurs in states, but the self is unchanged. This body always abides in death, whereas the Self abides in immortality. One must give importance to this discrimination.

Gita says "Just as a man discards his worn out clothes, and puts on new ones, likewise, the embodied soul casting off worn out bodies and enters new ones." (Gita 2:22)

"Vaasaansi jeernaani yathaa vihaay navaani grhuhyati naropanaani
Tatha shariraani vihaay jeernaanyanyaani sayaati navaani dehi." (Gita 2:22)

The body is perishable, no one can ever preserve it forever, and our real self is imperishable. No one can ever destroy it.

From "Discovery of Truth and Immortality" in English pg 107-109 by Swami Ramsukhdasji

Ram Ram

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