Tuesday, May 26, 2009

ARE INDIA AND INDIANS SO DUMB, Francois Gautier

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Fw: White People Are More Intelligent Than Indians

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Bharat J. Gajjar Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:05 AM


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The white woman and India
http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/may/20franc.htm

May 20, 2004

The spectacle on the night of May 18, of all these Congress leaders,
many of them intelligent men and women, debasing themselves in front
of Sonia Gandhi, pleading with her to lead the country, made me feel
sick. If Sonia had any dignity, she would have stopped it, but she
just listened, with a slightly bored expression, right till the last
Congressman and woman had wallowed in dirt before her.

And again I asked myself the question which has baffled me for 35
years, although I am myself a white man and a born Christian: why do
Indians have such an attraction towards the white skin?

After reading the newspapers on Wednesday morning and seeing how
newspapers such as The Times of India still root for Sonia Gandhi,
with columnists such as Dileep Padgaonkar saying that her becoming
prime minister would be in tune 'with the highest Vedantic ideals,' I
wonder: does India, one of the most ancient civilizations on the
planet, need a white woman to govern her?

I am sure Sonia has great qualities, but are Indians so dumb, stupid
and backward, that they cannot find among themselves someone
intelligent enough, non-corrupt enough, to lead them? And what about
this craze for Mother Teresa? She may have been a saint, but nobody
has harmed India's image in the 20th century so much: when you say
India in the West, their eyes light up and they answer: 'Mother
Teresa/ Kolkata/ poor people/ dumb people/ starving people/ who do not
know how to care after their own underprivileged/ who need a white
woman to show them how to pick up the dying from the streets/ to look
after orphans'!

Is this the image Indians want today? An image that is harming them,
which is stopping Western investors from investing in India? Yet,
Mother Teresa is worshipped here, from Kolkata to Chennai, from Delhi
to Bangalore, and when she will be made a saint by the Vatican,
perpetuating this colonial, superior-minded, Christian symbol of white
superiority over the brown/black man, all the Indian media will
rejoice in its own mental slavery and the Indian government will
probably declare a national holiday!

Why don't Indians understand that brown is beautiful? White people
spend hours on the beach and put on a hundred creams to get tanned.
And in winter they even artificially lie under infrared lamps in
beauty parlors to get brown! Why this obsession for the Indian woman
to have white skin?

How come the two most popular actors in India have fair skin and
nearly blue eyes? Why this craze for 'fair' brides? If you find the
answers to these, you will understand why the fatal attraction for
Sonia Gandhi and Mother Teresa.

Obviously, colonisation has frozen the Indian mind in certain patterns
and the British made sure, through Macaulay's policies, of leaving
behind an enduring inferiority complex among Indians, by constantly
harping on the flaws of Indian culture and inflating them. That is why
today Indian intellectuals repeat like parrots what their masters had
said before them: 'Hindus are fundamentalists/Brahmins are
exploiters/Gowalkar was a Nazi/Indians are corrupt and no good.'

But that does not explain everything: most colonised countries have
aped their masters after having hated them. No, in my mind the
greatest factor behind India's love for the white is the absurd theory
of Aryan invasion

According to this theory, which was actually devised in the 18th and
19th centuries by British linguists and archaeologists, the first
inhabitants of India were good-natured, peaceful, dark-skinned
shepherds called the Dravidians, who had founded what is called the
Harappan or the Indus Valley civilisation. They were supposedly
remarkable builders, witness the city of Mohenjo Daro in Pakistani
Sind, but had no culture to speak of, no literature, no proper script
even. Then, around 1500 BC, India is said to have been invaded by
tribes called the Aryans: white-skinned, nomadic people, who
originated somewhere in western Russia and imposed upon the Dravidians
the hateful caste system. To Aryans is attributed Sanskrit, the Vedic
or Hindu religion, India's greatest spiritual texts, the Vedas, as
well as a host of subsequent writings, the Upanishads, the Mahabharat,
the Ramayan, etc.

This was indeed a masterstroke on the part of the British: thanks to
the Aryan theory, they showed on the one hand that Indian civilisation
was not that ancient and that it was posterior to the cultures which
influenced the Western world -- Mesopotamia, Sumeria, and Babylon --
and that whatever good things India had developed -- Sanskrit,
literature, or even its architecture -- had been influenced by the
West.

Thus, Sanskrit, instead of being the mother of all Indo-European
languages, became just a branch of their huge family; thus, the
religion of Zarathustra is said to have influenced Hinduism, and not
vice versa. On the other hand, it divided India and pitted against
each other the low caste, dark-skinned Dravidians and the high caste,
light-skinned Aryans, a rift which is still enduring. Yet, most recent
archaeological and linguistic discoveries point out that there never
was an Aryan invasion and many historians, including the malevolent
Romila Thapar, are distancing themselves from it. Yet, most Indians
still believe in this absurd theory.

Wake up O Indians: you are as great, if not greater than the white
man. You can do as well, if not better than the white man. Not only
did your forefathers devise some of the basic principles of
mathematics, astrology, and surgical medicine, not only are your
people among the most brilliant in the world today -- half of Silicon
Valley is of Indian origin, 30 percent of the United Kingdom's doctors
are Indians -- but you still hold within yourselves a unique spiritual
knowledge, which once roamed the world but which has now disappeared,
replaced by the intolerant creed of the two major monotheistic
religions which say: 'if you don't believe in my true God, I will
either kill you or convert you'.

Wake up India, brown is beautiful, smart and it is the future. Dr
Manmohan Singh, whatever has to be said about the Congress, you have
partly redeemed India's pride, and our good wishes are with you.

The author is the correspondent in South Asia for Ouest-France, the
largest circulation French daily (1 million copies)

Francois Gautier



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33 Comments:

At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should pick a lower point font type, as the current size throws off the story-reading fluidity. Readers eyes flow from sentence to sentence, and there's too many line breaks here to keep the average browser interested.
Nice story btw.

 
At 12:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eh, me thinks thou do protest too much. many Western Businesses have invested heavily in Indian call centers, ANY westerner will tell you talking to an Indian cal center, they have scripts, do not seem to be alowed to have independant thought, maybe it is the culture that does not allow them to be creative.
Indian movies, look, there doesw NOT need to be comedy, drama, and by al means, every movie does NOT have to have a guy and a girl dancing with 10,000 people behind them dancing, , really it is cheesy .

The ONLY reason India business is thriving is because you work cheap, you are not good, just cheap. Sorry to bust the bubbble, your economy will increase but it is not because you deliver quality, it is because we can hire you cheap, that is it.

 
At 5:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It amazes me that Indians respect foreigners and learn to treat them like one of their own, do not differentiate and pour their hearts out in praise for their good work but foreigners still manage make up stories like these and spill hate at them. Sonia Gandhi is Indian and Mother Teresa (ask the Indians) is an Indian, praise for their good work obviously stems from them accepting these so called white people as their own. The race topic is not debated as such in India, until recently most were not even informed about it. Its their culture to be respectful.

Mother Teresa is praised by all and let me reveal to you that Sonia Gandhi is actually hated by many, calling her ineffective and incapable of understanding India. Many people protested that she cannot lead because she lacked Indian perspective.

 
At 7:09 AM, Blogger Dnana said...

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At 7:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi,

Who are you fucker to teach indians about their intellectual. You are doing the same mistakes that other whites are doing. I'm an indian I hate my people but I love my country.

YOU WHITES HAVE PROBLEM!! LICK ONLY YOUR ASSES NOT OTHERS

 
At 7:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi,

Who are you fucker to teach indians about their intellectual. You are doing the same mistakes that other whites are doing. I'm an indian I hate my people but I love my country.

YOU WHITES HAVE PROBLEM!! LICK ONLY YOUR ASSES NOT OTHERS

 
At 2:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no idea what the guy at 7:10 said... twice.

Summary:
"White, ass, Fucker, ass-lick."

Something is wrong with that guy...

 
At 12:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

god I love this guy. what a brilliant article and to all those indians who dont disagree with what has been written well lets just say you have already been mentioned.
love from an indian women who loves her brown skin :) and to anyone who cant accept that... f*ck off

 
At 3:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get real, fellow Indians. I understand that it is a bit insulting to us when we are labeled dumb, but let's face the facts rather than defend our honor. India is known for its cheap labor, primarily. There are other reasons for which we are popular (from "good" movies to "hot" babes, or for being dumb as this post suggests), but we are PRIMARILY known for delivering cheap products. The other country that is prospering using the same route is China. Both India and China are known for cheap labor, and have a growth rate of 5%+.
Believe me. I am a Bachelor in computer Engineering and work as a java programmer in a reputed Indian IT firm (heard of a company called Wipro??)and get a monthly salary of Rs. 18,000. That is around US $4860 a year. Guess what a java programmer gets paid per annum in the US on an average? US $59,000!!! If you don't believe me, check SimplyHired.com. Now, I have a question for all those Indians out there who think Western companies outsource their work to us for our quality: how many TIMES 4860 is 59,000???

 
At 11:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indian people are dumbest fucks on earth. there is no brains in their heads its just shit! fucking cheap cocksuckers, wanna bargain with everything. your in America best buy is not a flea market.

 
At 5:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This a great article-totally understandable. And the guy above me needs to learn real, diplomatic languauge. Back to the topic, I'm an Indian woman and an American but totally can relate. Great, great, great article.....Hope other Indians read it. I don't really get the bit with Sonia Gandhi, though....

 
At 7:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know am commenting to an article 6 years old...but really could not stop myself from appreciating the content of this article!!!

However, the dumbest thing is, Indians lack this way of thinking, atleast Congressmen do. 1,4268,499 / 12

 
At 12:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, this guys is absolutely correct. Until Indinas wake up and realize their own strength and have pride in themselves, they will continue to be used and abused by more sophisticated powers. On the other hand, I think that is starting to happen now. The rest of the world should watch out once India really wakes up - because it could take the whole thing over.

 
At 9:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I Absolutely abhor indians, they are so fake and their ignorance is so irritating. they are dumbest race i have met.

 
At 8:08 AM, Blogger Pankaj Sharma said...

Thanks for the nice article about Indian licking Sonia Gandhi's feet.
And desperation towards white skin.
All are correct facts..Actually this is the reason we were looted several times and ruled by British..Muslims..hundreads of year..That in itself a shame to corores of people..

Just wondering..Do you still have pride for MM singh?

 
At 12:53 PM, Blogger dman said...

I googled "why indians are dumb" and landed up here..I must say, it was an enthralling read...Its a bit perverse when an Indian like me would say that this nation hasn't seen much development in terms of intellectual freedom and growth...things are still rote and mundane here..the GDP might be skyrocketing but that doesn't portray the complete picture..most of them, and I mean MOST OF THEM, are still clinging to their primeval customs and belief while still claiming to bag the top spot in the global economic showdown..To be honest, I was born and brought up in this country and sadly, I didn't experience much of the "INDIA SHINING" fad..Infact, you still find famished kids on the streets (and I am in no way, trying to relate to the SLUMDOG furor which was flaunted generously), which pretty much brings us to square one...Maybe we still haven't been able to break the shackles of centuries-old disposition for servility...this still reflects in our tendency to ape the western culture...maybe that was the collateral damage inflicted by our previous colonists, leaving a festering wound in our psyche...Maybe, we a need a messiah to save our souls...

 
At 2:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ya indians r most xeroxing (n also d dumbest)people in world govt bans something dat shows womens nipples n allows males nipple just xeroxing westerns earlier de(both sex) used to roam topless u can get d proof in ancient temples..

now they call demselves secular n allow advertisements of fair n lovely (not lovely though) to tell how to turn black labroder dog into white Labrador dog every minute v at least watch 10 such ads n govt don't ban this. is Der really any difference male nipple n females & black n white

r Der only few Indians with high iq n common sense n memory

who cares much actually after closing this browser every one got something else to do

 
At 3:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

americans might think that indians are DUMB.. But plz dont forget dat we indians also find americans dumb. WHATEVER IT IS U HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL INDIA DUMB..

 
At 10:59 AM, Blogger Hunter612 said...

I'm an Indian stuck in India and let me tell you...this article is absolutely fantastic but the writer will only get flamed by Indians for calling a rusted spade a rusted spade. Indians aren't dumb, they are just colossal procrastinators and are very afraid of authority. This is provides this sad country with the right environment for misery to thrive....just my two cents worth. (Not) looking forward to my dumb compatriots flaming towards this post now...

 
At 12:48 AM, Blogger gompa said...

Very good article, All of us(INDIANS) have to realise this. We are so obsessed with west

 
At 8:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

iNdians will never ever admit what they are and ignore the facts .they are the most ill majored and unbelievably ignorant race of people on earth . The reason the economy thrives is because they don't spend money on anything for the public. Ten times a night the power go's off.people are pissing all up and down every road because there are no toilets . The driving in India is so bad and lawless that even when people get stopped the corruption takes over in the most corrupt police force in the world . Stupid is what stupid does and I can tell you there is nobody more stupid .sriously !

 
At 11:17 PM, Anonymous James said...

May be true because Indian Iq is only 85-86.But in India there is a region name Bengal and it's capital city Kolkata has 4 Nobel as first In Asia(excluding peace),one of the greatest inventor and polymath Bengali J.C Bose who invented wireless communication in 1894,microwave optics.polarizer,depolarizer etc,Physiscist Satyendra Bose,one of all time great whose work has brought 10 Nobel prizes so far,world's most sophisticted test tube baby pioneer etc.

Also mystic Swami Vivekananda,one of the greatest movue director Satyajit Ray and total of 17 grammy award winners and many more.

I think Bengali upper caste Hindu and Christian missionaries of Bengal have Iq above 95 and they are very smart.But other Indians are mostly backward,primitive and dumb.

 
At 12:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Loved your post and wanted to respond to what has been said (even though this is coming in way later than some of the other comments).

I agree with everything you had to say and also about what others have pointed out. Indians keep talking about their history -- culture and heritage, which is in no doubt rich and unique, to justify their greatness...except that it has no real relevance in today's time. Yeah sure, we still use math and the zero in daily life, but those were the works of their ancestors so maybe they should start being a little proactive in their contribution that will impact their present and future.

I think India has the worst possible scenario -- over-populated, poor, religiously and politically divided (because there is no separation of the government and state like how it is here in the US), and because it is a secular democracy they have to function as one. Tough to do, if the people aren't united -- all 2 billion of them.

I think Indian people have good tendencies and want good for themselves and their fellow-Indians but I feel that this is largely repressed because of the overly competitive (due to over-population), and dog-eat-dog world that is sustained in the Indian society. And let's just admit, nothing good can come out of a situation where an Indian is always looking for a fellow-Indian's weakness, waiting for them to trip and fall so they can go in for the kill with their vicious back-stabbing. No wonder the country isn't progressing. India's growth hasn't been stagnant, but it's not what I would call progress either (I visit every year and have been doing so for the last 10 years). It's significant but not staggering--the kind of expectations you would have for a race that is always calling themselves smart and great. But you know something is wrong when you have more Indians trying to get out -- and making a goof life outside their native country, than the ones who want to get in -- which isn't a whole many. Indians are smart, yes, but do Indian universities get the kind of businesses that the UK, US and Australian universities do? Sure, some Indian universities may have international students, but is it up to the scope and standards that western universities achieve? Indian people are smart, yes, but limited in the ways that they use it (without migrating, that is). Also, the herd mentality doesn't help. India has probably have way more software engineers than the world is ever going to need. Instead, it should use its population to its advantage and breed diversity in occupation. I never see the arts being encouraged the way IT-related education is.

I think India's success really lies in its own hands, but it's just that they stand in their own way. Lack of large-scale profits and local funds make them want to resort to cheap labor for the western companies. They have the smarts and intellect to run a large-scale local business (so far, the only ones I've been hearing for the past decade is Tata, the Ambanis and just a couple of others). It's not too practical to start a local company from scratch because of the lack of funds since most of that goes into coping with politics / having a standing-army, entertaining and making the rich even richer, coping with the massive rural and poor masses. Like somebody mentioned, no wonder India has no public facilities (public restrooms sure are a rarity, and they still use the trains that the British left them with) because I don't think it's even being governed in the people's best interest to begin with.

I appreciate that India is in a very difficult situation, but the sooner its people stop pretending that their past is going to justify having a rich future, the sooner India can be on its way to success. A vicious cycle to break, which could take decades and decades. I certainly won't be holding my breath...

 
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At 10:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indians are the most successful immigrant group according to Forbes
and NYTimes

educated Immigrants in the United States. Even smarter and wealthier than whites... http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/24/bobby-jindal... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/world/ameri... -

 
At 9:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are both a... developing country , and ignortant also..but we are not so bad at all..By Neeta

 
At 7:44 PM, Blogger Pranav Rampal said...

Greetings sir.
That's the problem. Indians do not want to wake up. They r ignorant ( thats all i say) our scriptures. The mahabharat( i saw it as a tv series) has all the answers i needed. And yet people r just opposite of what they r described as in scriptures. I have also read bible a little bit, but i agree more which Mahabharat and lord krish as approach to human lives. And trust me when i say this. No indian follows their scriptures . AT ALL.. They choose to make a superstition out of a ritual instead of understanding the ritual etc etc. eg, there's this common stuff in Hindu rituals about fire . Stuff is added to it. With a little R&D i found out that smoke cleans up the lungs to give a better breathing. In indian? No one is practical ( or the population of wise and righteous is very very small). Anyways, i thank you for this post in hope that the uninitiated ones atleast try nd walk on the path of greatness( which they all put up banners for, but never instill it inside themselves) good day:) lord bless you.

 
At 8:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think Indians are capable of running a country. It's not because brown people are dumb but because Indians seem incapable of 1) formal planning; 2) workmanship; 3) being ethical when no one is looking; and 4) being truly humble. If you can't even build a road, how the heck will you run a country?

 
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