Saturday, January 24, 2009



[gita-talk] Meaning and How to Attain - Mukti and Jeevan Mukti?

sadhak_insight Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Dear Saadhakas,

Can sombody tell me the meaning of Mukti & Jeevan Mukti.

How do we achieve the same.

OM shanti.

Bhavin Shah
Dear Shahji,

I will try to answer your query to the best of my knowledge as I have understood the questions raised by you:

1. Mukti means stopping this chakra of awah jaayi, i.e. end of being born again and again which happens to all of us until we achieve moksha or liberation from this cycle of chaurasi laakh yoni;
2. I must admit I do not know the meaning of 'jeevan mukti' myself; perhaps one of the sadhaks can answer this one.

3. To achieve moksha, one has to reach a stage whereby one has no desires left, whatever we can see and the world are only temporary and therefore this whole phenomenon of the sansara does not bother one any more; we are all actors here with a mukhota; in each new janam we get a new mukhota and we act out our part and then we die and are born again and again according to our unfulfilled desires until we are able to establish a contact with our soul and with the God himself and are completely in love with him and nothing else. Examples are: Kabir, Mira, Buddha, even though Buddha said he did not find God in any house that he was born into one birth after the other; he however has emphasized, inter alia, meditation and compassion for the one who is working for his liberation, true compassion at that for every one, irrespective!

4. So many paths like karm yoga, gyan yog, bhakti etc. have been advised to reach the goal to achieve moksha; but I think the easiest and the ultimate path is pure bhakti when one only loves God and no one else, not even one's own body, etc. An example is Ram Krishna Param Hans. Also listen to the lectures of JAGADGURU KRIPALUJI MAHARAJ OF Vrindavan.

5. Out of the millions of bhaktas or the ones following different paths, like karm yog, gyan yog, bhakti, etc. out of millions and billions only one soul achieves the goal, i.e. moksha that also in aeons. Rest of us keep going through the cycle and keep suffering.

6. And then the most important part is bhagwat kripa, after all the above efforts, whenever God will shower his blessing.

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At 1:07 AM, Blogger Sivamjothi said...

one should know self before knowing god
Sariyai kriyai yogam gnanam

How one does davam/penance/meditation? It means do nothing with mind, keep in the holy feet/thiruvadi of god in our body!!
How guru helps with his experiance? what is guru sath sath para brahma?

Open eye , surrender mind to holy feet in our body. Do-nothing with mind. Still the mind. Dont use it..

Sanathana dharma

Its about knowing self and god. India was known for this..

Actual place of Kundalini is not at end of spine... please read this .... Hidden secrets are revealed...

who is guru? how guru helps? in the way of siddhas

The meaning of the word deekshai is initiation. When a human does become a real
human being? If one gets father and mother is not human being!

Only when he gets guru he is human! With human body, he obtains maturity in the mind, becomes a real human only after getting a gnana guru.

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God is light, soul is tiny light, one need to know self. You are not body mind, they belong to you. You are soul..
how to know realize>? Get preaching from guru and take thiruvadi deekshai(holy feet inititaion)
Kingdom of god is with in, get baptized by light

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