THE REALITY AND ILLUSIONARY IDEAS ABOUT MOSLEMS

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date Jul 30, 2007 8:17 AM
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Myth shattered about Muslims


In Britain a group of Muslim doctors and medical students were arrested in connection with a series of attempts to murder thousands of innocent people waiting to board aircraft or, sin of sins, dancing in a club.

Commentators were incredulous that people of science sworn to do none harm should apparently act thus. Fools. The doctors' unions in Egypt and Jordan are dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood, a fascist group that preaches jihad. The second in command of Al Qaida is a pediatrician and one of the founders of Hamas a surgeon.



The idea that poverty and oppression produce psychotic mass murderers has always been a patronizing illusion. Egyptian universities churn out fundamentalist fanatics, the Saudi middle class is riddled with extremism.

But none of this would happen, argue the appeasers, if America and Israel left the Middle East alone. Tell this to the Christians of Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Hindus and North Africa. They had done nothing to provoke the Islamic armies that invaded their countries, imposed Muslim rule, converted at sword-point and humiliated those who remained Christian and Jewish as second-class citizens.

Yet still in the west we hear the usual moans. There is fundamentalism in all religions, they say, and we should be careful not to judge. Well, next time I'm at the airport I'll make sure to look around for any Christian, Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalists who are obsessed with slaughtering me and my children.
Britain, just like Canada and any other non-Islamic state, is considered to be part of the House of War. As such it is acceptable to kill its people. Be warned, compromise will not save you. Mind you, the worst horrors are kept for other Muslims. Fundamentalist gangs killed 150,000 Algerians just to destabilize the government!

"The Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realization of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah blesses him and grants him salvation, has said: "The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, Hindus (killing the Jews, Hindus), when the Jew and Hindu will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew or Hindu behind me, come and kill him. Only the gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews," (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim)."

Perhaps the last word should go to Judea Pearl, father of Daniel. A less fortunate journalist than Alan Johnston, he was tortured and beheaded. Criticizing the movie A Mighty Heart and its clumsy attempt to compare Islamic terrorists with CIA agents and Muslim murder chambers with Guantanamo Bay, Judea Pearl wrote of the film and his son, "Moral relativism died with Daniel Pearl, in Karachi, in Jan. 31, 2002. There was a time when drawing moral symmetries between two sides of every conflict was a mark of original thinking. Today, it reflects nothing but lazy conformity."

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45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids -- telegraph.co.uk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/05/nterror405.xml
45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids
By John Steele, Crime Correspondent

A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an extremist internet chat site.

Police found details of the discussions on a site run by one of a three-strong "cyber-terrorist" gang.
They were discovered at the home of Younis Tsouli, 23, Woolwich Crown Court in south-east London heard.
One message read: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.

"The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy." This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at May port Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida.

The message discussed targets at the base, adding: "These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."
It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.

Investigators have found no link between the Tsouli chat room and the group of doctors and medics currently in custody over attempted car bomb attacks in London and Glasgow.

However, sources said it was "definitely spooky" that the use of doctors for terrorist purposes was being discussed in jihadi terrorist circles up to three years ago.

Part of the inquiry into the London and Glasgow incidents will focus on whether al-Qa'eda has recruited doctors or other medical professionals because they are less likely to attract suspicion and can move easily around the western world.

The three "cyber terrorists" - a British national and two who had been given the right to live in Britain - are facing lengthy jail sentences after admitting using the internet to spread al-Qa'eda propaganda inciting Muslims to a violent holy war and to murder non-believers.

They had close links with al-Qa'eda in Iraq and believed they had to fight jihad against a global conspiracy by kefirs, or non-believers, to wipe out Islam.

The three are the first defendants in Britain to be convicted of inciting terrorist murder on the internet. They waged cyber-jihad on websites run from their bedrooms.

Tsouli promoted the ideology of Osama bin Laden via email and radical websites. He said in one message he was "very happy" about the July 7 bombings in London in 2005. Tsouli, along with Tariq Daour, a biochemistry student, and Waseem Mughal, a law student, were intelligent, computer-literate men who promoted violent propaganda.

They created chat forums to direct willing fighters to Iraq and discuss murderous bomb attacks around the world. Films of hostages and beheadings were found by police.

Daour, 21, of Bays water, west London, who was born in the United Arab Emirates, admitted inciting another person to commit an act of terrorism wholly or partly outside Britain. Moroccan-born Tsouli, 23, of Shepherd's Bush, west London, and British-born Mughal, 24, of Chatham, Kent, admitted the same charge on Monday.

They are due to be sentenced today. They also admitted conspiring together and with others to defraud banks, credit card companies and charge card companies. Daour had instructions for making explosives and poisons, the court was told. Police found instructions on causing an explosion with "rocket propellant'' and constructing a car bomb.

In one on-line conversation, Daour, asked what he would do with £1 million, replied: "Sponsor terrorist attacks, become the new Osama."

The three men outwardly appeared to be leading normal lives, studying and living with their parents. Tsouli had come to the UK with his family from Morocco in 2001.
Mughal had a degree in biochemistry from Leicester University and was studying for his masters.
Daour, who was granted British citizenship in May 2005, had applied to start a law degree.

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All kinds of Media when really talking about Muslims avoid Muslim word and give impression talking about Hindus

See No Muslims: The NY Times Ignores the Obvious
By Joel Mowbray
July 6, 2007
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JoelMowbray/2007/07/06/see_no_muslims_the_ny_times_ignores_the_obvious

In what must have come as a shock to its readers, the New York Times reported that the July 7, 2005 terrorist attacks in London brought "home to Britain fears of homegrown terrorist attacks among its disenfranchised South Asian population."

Imagine the surprise of many to learn that Britain is now under attack from "disenfranchised South Asian" people, not those who murder in the name of their Islamic faith.
Cruelly ironic is that in the course of attempting to avoid offending Muslims, the Times managed to defame two larger groups of people-all in a single sentence.

And that's setting aside the fact that the deadliest 7/7 bomber was not even "South Asian." Germaine Maurice Lindsay, who changed his name to Abdullah Shaheed Jamal after converting to Islam at age 15, moved to the UK from Jamaica.

A plain reading of the silly Times sentence would suggest that the British discussions of terrorism for the past two years have revolved, in large part, around fears of Indian Hindus, the single largest South Asian demographic in the United Kingdom. (According to the last UK census, immigrants who trace their ancestry to India, over 80% of whom are Hindu, are the only population of South Asian descendants topping one million in the country.)

Presumably, the Times was seeking a gentle way of pointing the finger at ethnic Pakistani Muslims, or perhaps even Muslims hailing from Bangladesh. But the self-proclaimed "paper of record" couldn't bring itself to write anything more specific than "South Asian population."

Perhaps the Times assumed that its sophisticated readers would read between the lines, just sort of figuring out that reporters Alan Cowell and Raymond Bonner were really talking about Muslims, but couldn't write as much out of politeness.

In a 1,600 word story about homegrown terrorism inside the UK, it took roughly 1,400 words before Cowell and Bonner mentioned "Muslims." "Islam" is nowhere to be found.
But the Times's absurd rhetorical acrobatics insulted not only the broad "South Asian" population, but also Britain itself.

Notice the clever phrasing about the object of Brits' fears: the "disenfranchised South Asian population." Disenfranchised is a victims' tag that mostly sullies the aggressors who have committed the disenfranchising, in this case implying that Britain has "deprived" this population group "of the rights of citizenship."Brits have done no such thing.

Remember that Muslims, or, "South Asians," have long been welcomed into British society, from employment through politics. 7/7 bomber Mohammad Sidique Khan, for example, used to work for Britain's Department of Trade and Industry.

To the extent that Muslims live and function outside of British society, it is largely by choice. British imams, for example, have told their followers not to contribute to the "infidel" economy and instead suck off its government by collecting welfare checks. And no one who's seen the photos needs reminding of the outrageous British Muslim protests calling for the blood of Islam's critics.

Perhaps the Times feels no remorse insulting large groups that the paper doesn't consider to be minorities. And perhaps the Times finds no shame in ignoring the religion of people hell-bent on murdering in the name of that religion.
But is the Times even slightly concerned when the paper's sensibilities trump the facts?
Joel Mowbray, who got his start with Townhall.com, is an award-winning investigative journalist, nationally-syndicated columnist and author of Dangerous Diplomacy: How the State Department Threatens America's Security.

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From: sahastrabhuj@gmail.com
Letter to the editor in Brisbane Times Australia
We are ashamed that Australia's government has cowed down to the prime minister of India's plea to release a terrorist. Do you think British govt. will ever release the terrorists just because Indian prime minister is losing his sleep over these rascals? NEVER.

Man Mohan Singh has never been elected so far and he is a dummy prime minister with an evil design of Vatican whereby the real power is inherent in Sonia Maino Gandhi who is working as sales agent of Vatican corp.

Man Mohan Singh is a shameless man who is misusing his power and threatening the responsible government of Australia to release a terrorist. WHY? This is all done to appease the Muslims to guarantee their votes for the coming national elections.

We appeal to Australian Prime Minister to carry on the investigation and punish all terrorists irrespective of their nationality, profession or religion. A terrorist is a terrorist who must be punished to avoid destroy lives of millions of peaceful people.

It is a pity that Man Mohan Singh sent today a minister of his govt. to Bangalore to meet and console the family of the terrorist while pressuring constantly on Australian government threatening them of trade relations. This is absolute nonsense. Australia has nothing to lose with trade to India as that is not controlled by this dummy prime minister and an inefficient government in India.
The economic growth bubble constantly pushed by prime minister is a big hoax and India continues to be in misery and will continue to have no growth when we have people who do not treat all Indians as equal and divide the 1 billion people with castes, religions and other divisive factors like various kinds of reservations.
Shame on Man Mohan Singh and Indian authority to trying to release a terrorist unlawfully.
http://hindustan.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2892

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